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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:56 pm: | |
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1676793,00.html Well, at least it's good to see Bava there alongside Murnau and Hitchcock. Some of the other choices, though, dear me... |
Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec
Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:02 pm: | |
Bambi?! I wonder if that one got in there by mistake ..? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.114
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:15 pm: | |
Red Dragon instead of Manhunter? If you're going to put a Lector film in there on the basis that he's been voted the number one villain, you should at least use the one where he's played the best and noot just as a panto character - the way Hopkins always plays him. Silly choices. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:41 pm: | |
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to that list whatsoever. Someone is being wilfully perverse methinks... |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.114
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:43 pm: | |
Is it supposed to be in any order? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.114
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:50 pm: | |
He's got facts wrong in the details on a few of the films as well. Apparently Peter Jackson also made a film called Meet the Feelies, and V for Vendetta is a remake of Phantom of the Opera. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 07:46 am: | |
Jeez. It's starting to feel like we can just grab any bunch of random films and call them the top 25 horror films. That top one is good, but really, number one? Let's have Abbott and Costello at number eight, followed by Chariots of Fire at 9. And who voted it? Some office types over a cuppa? |
Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:17 am: | |
Well, for what it's worth, the list is chronological, and I would hope its makers don't confuse that order with merit. But such a list with not a single Lewton film isn't worth serious attention in my view, even as polemic. |
John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 11:43 am: | |
This list feels extremely lazy, and even by my broad remit I can't consider No.25 to be a horror film. If they'd mentioned the first Georges Melies horror (The Devil's Castle according to Dennis Gifford. I seem to remember his lovely quote - 'The cinema was but one year old when the devil took over') that might have been more acceptable, or even the George Albert Smith Western that was the first have its villain point a gun at an audience and then have him pull the trigger. But this really is a waste of time. A bit like asking me to name my top ten racehorses or brands of perfume. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 03:55 pm: | |
About number 25; 'True or not, the story indicates the power the medium would wield over its audience.' Hmm. So people went on forever being petrified by traffic moving towards them in films. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.240.238
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 03:56 pm: | |
This list is embarrassingly bad. I had no idea that BLOOD FEAST was probably the first time in history audiences went "Ewwww!" in the theater. They list this MEN BEHIND THE SUN explaining, "time for an Asian weirdie that is both obscure and, to those who heard about it, notorious." And it brings to the fore the overwhelming question here with the entire list - did I miss this? - it is WHO THE F#$@ IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS?! Yeah, I'm going to go out and, well - list my top ten racehorses and perfumes. As long as I don't put my name down, no one will know I'm not f#$@ing qualified or know jack-shit about it. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 04:06 pm: | |
Just seen bits of Men Behind the Sun. Is it possible to have Youtube completely banned? |
Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris
Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 12.165.240.116
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 04:35 pm: | |
Any list that includes both MEN BEHIND THE SUN and BAMBI can't be taken seriously. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 04:52 pm: | |
Unless it's a list of the greatest animated movies ever made... I'm almost embarrassed to admit this but I have chosen my favourite horror film of every year (Stevie's Horror Oscars) going back into the mists of time and, if I do say so myself, it pisses all over the above poorly thought out selection. If anyone would like to test me just think of a year... any year? Incidentally it's my birthday and I was just out for lunchtime drinkies so I'm a little bit drunk ha ha. |
Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec
Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 05:09 pm: | |
>>If anyone would like to test me just think of a year... any year? << 1968, Stephen - it was the first year which popped into my head when I read that. What's your favourite from that year then? And many happy returns of the day to you - now go and sleep off those little drinkies! |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 05:18 pm: | |
Oh come on Caroline, that's an easy one... 'Rosemary's Baby' of course!! I'm off out for after work drinkies now lol. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.90
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 06:40 pm: | |
74. |
Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris
Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 12.165.240.116
| Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:58 pm: | |
>> Unless it's a list of the greatest animated movies ever made... Sorry, Stephen, but are you under the impression that MEN BEHIND THE SUN is animated? Or am I missing some joke? (I do that. Often.) |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 12:02 pm: | |
No I was talking about 'Bambi'. To be honest I'd never even heard of 'Men Behind The Sun' before... 1974: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (all imho) Owwww my head. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 12:23 pm: | |
Men behind the Sun is an incredibly nasty film which features such lovely scenes as a cat being thrown into a room filled with 100 rats and being torn to pieces (not faked), apparently genuine footage of an autopsy on a young boy, and numerous faked gruesome experiments. It's possibly the most gruesome film I've ever seen. To pick up on Tony's statement about you-tube does anyone else think it's strange that if the autopsy sequence was removed it's more likely that it would be taken down for the close up shots of the outside of the boy's body than the inside... |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 01:08 pm: | |
That's one I won't be watching... sounds like that 'Faces Of Death' nonsense. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:26 pm: | |
You tube is repellent. For one it should scrap the comments section entirely as it's the literary equivalent of reading dirt with shit mixed in, and another because there's no quality control whatsoever. Some might say this would be a horrible act of censorship but stuff 'em; we censor our own behaviour daily, and rightly so, otherwise we'd all be swinging off lampposts like bloody orangutans. Sorry - in a bit of a mood and feeling very anti-net. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:27 pm: | |
Stephen; 1965. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:33 pm: | |
Tony, here's an idea: just stop using Youtube. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:45 pm: | |
I don't - it's my kids when my back is turned. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:49 pm: | |
Use the parental control function on your browser... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:49 pm: | |
I have. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:52 pm: | |
I've heard of too many stories of late of kids taking themselves off into their pc rooms and never coming out, finding talking to people difficult. They say it's progress, unavoidable, but I'm starting to feel it's the opposite. And yet, here I am, and when not here I'm checking my texts and emails on my phone every five minutes - *literally* every five minutes. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:45 pm: | |
1965: Repulsion |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:45 pm: | |
2002 |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:47 pm: | |
2002: Dark Water |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:53 pm: | |
I hope that's the Jap version not the US remake... 1989 |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:54 pm: | |
Happy birthday for 2 days ago by the way |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:59 pm: | |
Thanks mate!! It was yesterday unless I've lost a day which is quite possible after last night(?)... time for another cup of water I think. |
Alexicon (Alexicon) Username: Alexicon
Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 88.106.94.182
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 04:03 pm: | |
Stephen...you sound like a last-man-standing kind of guy. I look forward to having a drink with you... |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 04:03 pm: | |
Oops sorry... 1989: The Church Naturally it was Hideo Nakata's original version - the remake was keek! |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 04:06 pm: | |
Thanks Alex... the sentiment is mutual! |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.2.172
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 04:46 pm: | |
Tony - and I actually say this as someone who does NOT advocate what I'm about to say - but I often wonder (well, rhetorically I wonder) why there isn't a larger outcry against this entire thing called "the internet" - I mean from religious circles, etc. I am totally "mystified" (i.e., I am not, really) why religious and moral folk don't make a prominent push against the internet as the single most insidious and effective stream of pollution and evil and corruption and filth and wickedness yet to appear on planet Earth. To someone who would actually believe so, it's dangers far outweigh its benefits, surely. But they won't, because they're just as corrupted, every one, and hypocritical. That's just imho, of course. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 06:14 pm: | |
Was in a garden centre cafe today, mulling all this stuff over, when this song came on I haven't heard in years; http://www.myspace.com/karelfialka It's the 'Hey Matthew' one. So odd to hear it today. The net is sometimes ok but really, what has it done? It feels sometimes like all it's done is carefully aided death and isolation... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.141.208.176
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 06:15 pm: | |
God, I'm such a bloody misery. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 06:39 pm: | |
2005? There's an obvious one here for me. Wonder if you'll pick it |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.0.107.17
| Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 07:39 pm: | |
2005: The Descent |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:20 am: | |
I think that's probably my choice for the entire decade. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:22 am: | |
It is a modern classic... though I still slightly prefer 'Dog Soldiers'. 'Antichrist' is still my horror of 2009 and the decade. I think it will come to be seen as a very important genre film. |
Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec
Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 02:45 pm: | |
OK Stepehen, a more difficult one from a time when there weren't that many horror movies being made (for obvious reasons) - 1944. I'm not going to say 1945 as I suspect I know what the answer to that would be - it might be the same as mine! |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 03:21 pm: | |
1944: Curse Of The Cat People 1945: The Body Snatcher There was only one brand when it came to horror in the 1940s! |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 03:24 pm: | |
I have 'Dead Of Night' as made in 1944... but if that's wrong then it takes the 1945 prize. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 03:48 pm: | |
Thanks Caroline, checked several different sources now and 'Dead Of Night' seems defo to have been made in 1945. Cavalcanti gets the Oscar. |
Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec
Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85
| Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 09:33 pm: | |
Yes, I thought Dead of Night was 1945 but I'm not too good on dates so you had me wondering for a while. That was the one I was thinking of. Nice other choices there from you though. That era was a bit short on horror on film - too many real-life horrors going on. But the ones they did at that time were darned good 'uns. BTW I've just noticed how I misspelt your name in an above post: "Stepehen" Sorry about that! |