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     Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
This is the panel I'm one... SATURDAY: Noon – 01:00pm FEMME FATALES: HOW CAN WE GET MORE WOMEN IN HORROR? There is no doubt that men outnumber women in horror – both as writers and readers. So what can be done to attract more female authors to the genre and are there specific themes that women want in their horror fiction? Opinions anyone... | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Okay ...I'm on.... | ||
| Paul_finch (Paul_finch) Username: Paul_finch Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
I'd be interested to know the relative percentages of male and female readers when it comes to the vampire/romance type sub-genrre. I'd like to bet there are more women read that, and to be honest that seems like the financially healthiest part of the genre at present, IMO. That may be a question you have to deal with, Ally. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.179.207.45 |
I think Sarah P. is on that one too, Ally. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
I'm one one, too. Come along and watch me make a tit of myself (as usual): THURSDAY: 07:00pm – 08:00pm NEW BLOOD: THE NEXT GENERATION OF HORROR For any literary genre to grow and prosper its needs a consistent renewal of talent. Some of the hot new names of today talk about how they got into writing and where they plan to go with their careers. Ally - maybe if we wrote more horror stories featuring fluffy bunnies and George Clooney with his shirt off, more women would read genre titles?  | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
To be serious, though, I don't think it's a feasable, or even possible, aim to set out to attract a certain gender to any genre of literature. We like what we like, and horror does just seem to appeal more to the male psyche. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.10.7.83 |
I dunno. If folk in general didn't immediately think of women-getting-chopped-up and demon-kids when anyone mentioned horror, perhaps there'd be a lot more female fans. So, in answer to Ally's question: Let's stop shit being published. Brutalised women and evil kids are hardly likely to get the average woman panting for a dose of the genre. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
That's a very, very good point very, very well made. The horror genre has a perception problem (that's the second time I've used that phrase today). It needs to be tackled, and perhaps the genre would open up to a more diverse range of fans. My wife has just started reading horror fiction (because I write it) and the phrase I hear most from her when she reads something I recommend is "Oh, so that's horror? I didn't even realise." | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.10.7.83 |
Indeed. | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.13.171 |
Gary, Simon Kurt Unsworth is on the 'New Blood' panel too, and I know who's moderating it (or who's been asked, anyway). On Thursday at 10.00 pm (note to self: not too much wine with dinner) I'm moderating 'WE ARE NOT WORTHY: RECOGNISING THE MASTERS - Every writer owes a debt of gratitude to those authors who preceded them. From Edgar Allan Poe, Robert Louis Stevenson and Ambrose Bierce, through M.R. James, H.P. Lovecraft, and Arthur Machen, to Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Fritz Leiber, these writers have given us works that resonate today as much as they did when first written. Our panel of experts talk about their favourite writers and give examples of their work.' Ray Russell's on this panel as well (I'm only mentioning as definite people who've said publicly what they're doing at WHC). And on Friday at 3.00 I'm conducting 'GUEST OF HONOUR INTERVIEW: HUGH LAMB - GoH Hugh Lamb talks with Barbara Roden about his life and career as an editor.' As regards Allyson's panel: it sounds interesting, but I can't help thinking I'd rather discuss how to attract more 'good' authors to horror, rather than simply attracting more women to the genre for the sake of perceived balance. People write what they want to write, and read what they want to read. And as long as a) men continue to prefer male authors to female ones (as they do, across every genre), and b) tend to prefer visceral horror to more subtle chills (as the majority of male readers of horror seem to do, based on sales figures and comments I see around the Internet), then you can attract as many female writers to the genre as can be managed, and it won't make much difference, except in rare cases. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Gary and Gary - spot on. My husband said the same today. I don't like SAW films and Paul Finch quite rightly made his case about torture horror..on an earlier thread. We women ...will have none of it. It offends me - to be honest. New... some...female writers (who don't have the wide library) think that they have to write this crap ....and they don't. I certainly don't. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
Whilt I don't like to read extreme stuff in literature, I actually love it on screen. My relationship with the horror genre is deeply complex. Which is suprising, because I'm such a shallow bastard.  Me and Unzo on the same panel...that could get a bit messy. Just keep the red wine away from us. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Okay ..this really interests me Zed. Today I was thinking about Hollywood and its impression on women. This watching/reading thing is - indeed complex. Do fledgling women writers feel shackled? The best watching/reading experience I've had lately is LET THE RIGHT ONE IN... | ||
| Paul_finch (Paul_finch) Username: Paul_finch Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Here's mine - hopefully some of you will attend and ask relatively easy questions: It is the dream of every writer to either sell their work to the movies or become a scriptwriter themselves. But just how easy is it, and does is it really lead to wealth and fame? | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Sod - wealth and fame. Do what you want to do. If it is going to work out - it will. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
I write about adventure/horror that has to do with ...death, disease, and destruction...and snakes...let us not forget about the snakes : >) I write about what I'm afraid of. In my prose I become more than I am ...and I can fight to the death. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
I could do with a bit of wealth and fame right now. And money. Money is best of all. And let's not forget the clunge. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.153.232.112 |
I'm on a panel when everyone's gone home. 3pm on Sunday.  | ||
| Steveduffy (Steveduffy) Username: Steveduffy Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 86.162.149.113 |
Ah, Jesus, no. Guess who's moderating the panel with Unsy and Gary Mac? | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.179.207.45 |
Whoo-hoo! | ||
| Steveduffy (Steveduffy) Username: Steveduffy Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 86.162.149.113 |
I must have been a real bad bastard in a past life, is all I can think. | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.13.171 |
Steve, Gary, Simon: if you feel you want someone in the audience to ask some innocuous off-the-cuff, top-of-their-head, completely spur of the moment questions you can answer easily, send me a list of these questions at least a week beforehand, and I'll memorise them. | ||
| Ian Alexander Martin (Iam) Username: Iam Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 64.180.64.74 |
Oddly, I've been asked to participate. They must be desperate for non-UK publishers to do things. Obviously, Barbara would be the first to be asked, and then they start desperately looking through the list of people and wonder "do they speak English? …well, can they learn in time?" and then eventually get to me with the resigned attitude of "well, he says he'll have something published by then… let's hope, eh?"
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| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.13.171 |
I doubt I was the first to be asked to do anything, Ian! However, Steve Jones does seem to be doing an excellent job of fitting panel participants to appropriate panels. 'Well, duh,' I hear you say; but wait! I've been to cons where the most frequent thing heard on panels was a participant (or participants) saying, when they're introducing themselves, 'I really don't know why I'm here.' False modesty, the audience thinks; until the participants go on to demonstrate, for the next hour, that they were speaking nothing more than the simple truth. Beware the desperate look in the eye, the fact that the person sits as far from the moderator as possible, and their repeated use of the awkward pause and such phrases as 'I was just about to make that point' or 'I couldn't agree more with my fellow panelist; perhaps she would like to elaborate. . . .' The other thing to beware is the audience member who seems to be under the misapprehension that your panel on The Pan Books of Horror is actually a panel on post-apocalyptic novels, or the influence of H.P. Lovecraft, or the legacy of Arkham House, and who will, despite having sat there for 45 minutes, spring a question that is so totally out of sync with anything that's been discussed that you'll begin to question your sanity. (Yes, I'm talking about you, the man who asked about L. Frank Baum's THE WIZARD OF OZ during my panel on neglected practitioners of supernatural fiction. . . .). | ||
| Skunsworth (Skunsworth) Username: Skunsworth Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 92.28.43.77 |
Is the Duffy moderating me? Holy Shit! Barbara, I'd like you ask to ask this question: "The horror field is lucky at present to be attracting new authors who are both talented and surprisingly hot. How would you feel, Simon, if asked to appear topless in a poster or advertising campaign? Gary?" At which point I'll arrange for Wendy and Emily to stand up and start whooping "Get 'em off!". That seems classy. | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.13.171 |
Yes, Simon, you're being moderated by the Duffster. From what he's told me about what he has in store, this is one panel I will NOT be missing. I will, however, be standing near the exit, and carrying a torch, for when the lights go . . . oh, sorry, Steve, I didn't mean to tell. As for your question: no problem asking it, but am I allowed to rephrase it slightly? 'The horror field is lucky at present to be attracting new authors who are both talented and surprisingly hot. How would you feel, Simon, if one of your hats was asked to appear in a poster or advertising campaign? And Gary, how would you feel about appearing naked? More importantly, how would the audience feel?' | ||
| Skunsworth (Skunsworth) Username: Skunsworth Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 92.28.43.77 |
Mt hats are already in talks to develop a solo career. Fame and fortune surely beckons! S | ||
| Ian Alexander Martin (Iam) Username: Iam Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 64.180.64.74 |
Barbara: Thankfully, the Humdrumming Books of Horror Stories are a fine example of how Pan's feeling, style, and thematic content can be stretched to honour it in a myriad of ways. I like to think if them being easily identified as "there you are: that's too far away from the original to call it an homage anymore." Job done. I can almost see Baum being considered a writer of supernatural fiction, but it would have to be a question couched in five minutes of context. Which would be daft beyond belief. However, you're wise to warn me of the loony in the crowd. This way I can, in advance, offer Zed a whisky to kill anyone who tries that sort of ridiculous nonsense. I could also get Probert to quietly eviscerate them, but — and I have no information other than instinct here — he's likely to be moderating the thing. Logically, I shall frequently use examples of Pan-styled stories from his collection (which, it just happens, are being made available for the first time that weekend)… or for the sake of variety, James Cooper's writing (also co-incidentally being made available that week-end). Job done! As for the 'up and coming' question about topless/naked/etc campaign content… Given that panel's participants… erm… isn't there a law against that sort of thing? | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.13.171 |
'As for the 'up and coming' question about topless/naked/etc campaign content… Given that panel's participants… erm… isn't there a law against that sort of thing?' I hope not; it could be quite fun! | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
I leave you all for a day and this happens...filth, I tell thee. Filth! | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
Ian - are Charles Black and Johnny Mains involved in your panel on the Pan revival? Even if they're not, they might be good people to talk to about it if you want. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
I would have thought those two gents would be essential on that panel. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
I think someone should ask "Why are socks with blue triangles better than socks with green triangles?" or "Does got really kill a kitten every time you masturbate?" to every panel. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Zed. "Whilst I don't like to read extreme stuff in literature, I actually love it on screen." I just can't hack it on the screen | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.10.7.83 |
And I hate screen extreme, but don't mind literary versions: Barker et al. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
I was talking more about stuff like Hostel - that torture-porn thing. Shoddy, cheap, exploitative material. I love it in cinematic form, yet can't stand it in fiction. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Does that mean you think Hostel was real? | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.10.7.83 |
Oh, in that case, I hate both versions. | ||
| Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains) Username: Johnny_mains Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 82.22.70.137 |
I'll be moderating two panels SATURDAY: 11:00am – Noon FROM THE SUBLIME TO THE RIDICULOUS: A HISTORY OF "THE PAN BOOK OF HORROR STORIES" With thirty volumes from 1959 until 1989, The Pan Book of Horror Stories represented the best-known and most successful showcase for horror fiction ever in the UK. Original contributors to the anthology series discuss their experiences and reveal some of the dodgy business practices that went on behind the scenes. SUNDAY: Noon – 01:00pm IN ALL BUT NAME: THE NEW PAN BOOKS OF HORROR Ever since the original series of The Pan Book of Horror Stories ended in 1989, there have been various attempts to revive or emulate the series, including a re-branding by Pan itself! THEN 02:00pm – 03:00pm "BACK FROM THE DEAD" SIGNING A signing for the new anthology Back from the Dead: The Legacy of the Pan Book of Horror Stories with editor Johnny Mains and contributors Basil Copper, Christopher Fowler, Craig Herbertson, David A. Riley, Nicholas Royle and David A. Sutton. Should be fun! | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
Hey, Johnny - welcome to the RCMB! You're Pan-crazy, you are. | ||
| Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains) Username: Johnny_mains Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 82.22.70.137 |
Cheers Gary, Yup, guilty as charged! Nice to be here. Just writing the introduction for the Pan re-issue at the moment...  | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.10.7.83 |
Heeeeeeere's Johnny! | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
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| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
To any Horrorwatch readers following the link to this thread - Gary Fry has 5 books (either written or edited by or contibutor of one of 2 or 3 novellas contained therein) easily available through Amazon. Chris Barker has none. To my eyes that makes Gary - whilst not a household name by any stretch of the imagination - a more successful writer than Barker. Horrorwatch is nothing more than a sad delusioned little man with sour grapes that other writers who he personally dislikes are more successful than him. He thus decides that his time is better spent making endless spiteful, nasty, mostly inaccurate and frequently deliberate lies about Ramsey or any of the small press writers on this board struggling to make it in the world of writing. I do hope that you don't believe the crap that he spouts endlessly. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.181.51 |
Welcome to the board! | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
hello Johnny BTW and welcome. | ||
| Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains) Username: Johnny_mains Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 82.22.70.137 |
Cheers folks! | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
Hi Johnny - seen you somewhere before I think! Weber - I'm beginning to think you're obsessed with Horrorwatch being obsessed with the RCMB! (my head's spinning thinking about that) | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.232.164 |
Ally, it's worth noting that American horror fiction contains a much higher proportion of women than its British counterpart. America has the likes of Poppy Z. Brite, Kathe Koja, Caitlin R. Kiernan, Melanie Tem, Elizabeth Massie, Lucy Taylor and many more. And their stories are nasty. Not sadistic and not necessarily gory, but nasty: grim and demanding. It's only in the UK that there seems to be a cultural pressure for women to write genteel, low-key ghost stories. The best female horror writer living in the UK, Lisa Tuttle, is Texan. There are a number of very talented British female horror writers, but there isn't the massive presence we find in the USA. So the real question is: Why do female writers in the UK generally find horror difficult to get into? The answers have to do with gender, but also with class – and above all, with the inhibitions of British literary culture. | ||
| Alexicon (Alexicon) Username: Alexicon Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 88.106.23.145 |
Well,suck my snot-squirter - Johnny Pulp's on the board! Fleeting visit,mate? | ||
| Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains) Username: Johnny_mains Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 82.22.70.137 |
Alex, ya old diplodocus! Not decided yet... | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
'Why do female writers in the UK generally find horror difficult to get into? The answers have to do with gender, but also with class – and above all, with the inhibitions of British literary culture.' Very interesting point, Joel. Loads to think about there. At a local reading a year or so back I was talking about Titus Andronicus and horror (also Wuthering Heights). After an initial resistence to using that damned word 'horror' in conjunction with the greats the audience mellowed and went with it. It would be good to find out what all the female horror writers read as they were growing up, too. As a ten year old I went through my dad's pulp and was delighted to be able to read Edgar Rice Burrough's WARLORD OF MARS, alongside Alcott's LITTLE WOMEN. A little older and I read historical novels, Shakespeare, Swinburne and Blake...the gothic novels...very broad English Literature degree at uni...moving on to ...Aickman, Tuttle, Machen, Ligotti...recently Bulgakov (delighted to have found him) etc. I'm also keen to read outside the genre at the moment. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
The older I get the more I feel that telling people there's horror in Shakespeare and the Classics sounds like you're trying to justify the genre. Why should we have to? I prefer to point to other popular culture reference points these days, saying "that's horror". My wife was astonished to realse, for example, that the new "Survivors" TV show is a horror story. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
I know. For me, the definition of horror is broad. Depends on how you define horror - it can be unsettling, disturbing or strange, as with my two favourite writers - Aickman and Tuttle. It can be about anything that truly terrifies you, in the world - that you see and incorporate into your work. When you mention horror to some 'slasher' is the first thing that comes to mind. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Wow, I think I've pissed off Mr Barker. Just for the record any horrowatch readers, if you look at any number of posts that I've made here, I live in salford - only a few hundred miles from where barker places me. I'm not online at home so any IP address you see is either my office or a local library so the same IP address could apply to hundreds of people. I have never posted on Wikipedia and barker is a malicious twat who is really upping the ante on the innaccuracies and outright lies today. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
Funny as fuck. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Just goes to show - he really can't take criticism can he. Just to clarify BTW, not only do I live in Salford but this is the furtherest South I have ever lived. Caroline - read through Horrorwatch quickly. If it's not a surreal non-offensive post about nothing in particular, it's an attack on someone on this board (and one about Mark samuels, although he managed to squeeze an insult about the Landlord into that - and a nice long rant about BFS and Ramsey in the comments on that particular blog). And he has the nerve to say that Ramsey is obsessed about him. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Whoops, I think I just told a lie. Bangor, North Wales is the most southerly place I've ever lived, but that's at least a 100 miles further from London than Salford is anyway. Poor Mr Barker. He can't even make up a convincing bullshit story. | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
I know, Weber, I read it after I'd initially posted. I kind of feel sorry for him really. Is there a "shaking your head in dismay" icon here? But anyway, Weber, look on the bright side - you're famous now you've been savaged by Horrorwatch. I'm jealous really!  Hey, Mr Watch, if you're reading this, why don't you have a go at me too? I don't feel important till I've had a mention on Horrorwatch.  | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
Ally, Joel, Zed and anyone else who's involved in that bit of the conversation - agreed. Horror is everywhere in literature (I did an earlier thread on this topic) but most people don't realise it. I was talking to someone I know at a Doc Who convention last year (female). She knows I'm into horror. Her take is "I don't like things like that". But then at the very same con, David Howe was talking about his love of Doc Who, how he got into it at an early age, and how he thought of it as HORROR, not sci-fi. Made my friend think, I reckon. As for what female horror writers (and readers) read as a child, I was always into more "boy" things - not just reading but playing generally, with toy cars, guns, building spaceships out of cardboard boxes, and so on. I still have a bunch of small rubber monsters I used to invent stories with! (perhaps that's where the rubber monster/Doctor Who fixation comes from?  ) Basically, my theory is that ladies who are into horror now will probably have that kind of "tomboy" background. The way to get more women into horror is just what they're doing at the moment - inventing a sub-genre for the more "girly" women, ie. paranormal romance. That kind of thing doesn't appeal to me at all - I'll always be a tomboy! | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Marc, you may find this relevant: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.books.ghost-fiction/browse_thread/thread/c70f 9b20cd86bdc2/5fb4e8391c49bf17?q=ramsey+campbell+sock+puppets | ||
| Ian Alexander Martin (Iam) Username: Iam Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 64.180.64.74 |
Can we go back to more important things like how The Clash is more valid as Rock and Rollers than Led Zeppelin and how Zed's going to beat people up for me? Please? | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
I like THE CLASH. London Calling brings back some very fond memories of a French waiter in Bordeaux. | ||
| Skunsworth (Skunsworth) Username: Skunsworth Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 92.28.43.77 |
Oh damn, Ally's on a nostalgic sexy people memory trip! I'm not a huge Clash fan, but I do have a story about the power of nostalgic sexy memories. A while ago, I was trying to clear some space so I went to sell a load of books (about 4 big bags' worth), and the guy in the shop looked through all four bags, saying 'No, no' until the bottom of the last bag. He pulled out a battered copy of Zelanzy's Damnation Alley, went all misty-eyed and said, 'I had my first sexual experience with an older woman in a cinema watching the movie of this'. Then his eyes cleared, and with a great big grin on his face, he offered me a decent price for all the books. Result! S | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.43.214.156 |
Well - Simon, I've a lifetime of fun memories I'll share with you one day :>0 Ask Paul Finch and Simon Clark - they tried (a little successfully)to extract some of them from me at Fantasycon : >) We'll probably start where we left off at WHC Brighton, after a few pints. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
WTF is a sock puppet - other than using a bit of footware with butttons sewed on for eyes... | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
Weber, I think it's a euphamism for masturbating into a sock. I may be wrong, of course. Heh. Heh. Yawn. |