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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   

Yesterday I had the great good fortune to pick up a copy of Thomas Pynchon's mammoth novel AGAINST THE DAY for 30p in a library booksale. The opening chapter is superb: a spoof of "Boys' Own Adventure" pulp novels, as the 'Chums of Chance' fly to Chicago on an airship.

Anybody else already read this book? I love Pynchon but because my budget's so limited I didn't think I'd get to own my own copy of this massive hardback.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   

I share your enthusiasm for the author but haven't yet invested in this book. Keep us posted, Rhys!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.0.114.254
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   

I read V and was eminently puzzled the whole way through. The chapter on dentistry was crackerloopey.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.246.35
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 04:23 pm:   

I've not yet ventured into Pynchon. I figure I'll give him another 50 years to see if the consensus on him is still solid.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.0.114.254
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 04:37 pm:   

I eat only weeks-old fruit on the same principle: by that time, the rot has been proven to be natural.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.246.35
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 04:46 pm:   

Do you say in time Pynchon will have proved to have rotted, Gary?... and that his freshness is only now, while he IS fresh?...
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Nathaniel Tapley (Natt)
Username: Natt

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 89.240.59.35
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:53 pm:   

I got it for 50p outside my library a couple of months ago, and am looking forward to it immensely (I'm a huge fan of Gravity's Rainbow).

However, I'm currently working my way through the enormous copy of Anathem I got for 50p a couple of weeks later...
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.161.146
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:13 am:   

Hi Rhys. Good to see you here.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.159.146.233
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   

I bought AGAINST THE DAY new and at full price.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 01:28 pm:   

Hello everyone!

I'm delighted to find so many Pynchon fans here. I did fear that his name might just elict scowls... Very pleased to learn that Ramsey Campbell is a Pynchon fan (and recently he expressed his admiration for Borges and Jack Vance too. Excellent!)

Sorry to hear that Des bought the hardback at full price. I do feel guilty when I pick up expensive books for a pittance at library sales. But this sense of guilt doesn't restrain me in the slightest.

Joel: Nice to see you too!

Nathaniel: 50p seems a tad expensive. :-)

Craig: 50 years seems a tad long. :-)

Gary: I read Pynchon's "V" when I was 19 and it blew me away and completely changed my attitude to fiction. For one thing, this was the first novel I'd ever encountered where lots of things happened at the same time... and the antics of the Whole Sick Crew were similar to the antics of the people I hung around with back then... and the mix of highly crafted prose and engineering principles! Sublime and astounding!

Anyway, I do realise that Pynchon can be daunting at times. Reading MASON & DIXON was like getting to the top of a mountain: bloody exhausting but worth it for the ultimate view. I expected that AGAINST THE DAY was going to be another hard but worthwhile slog. But it's light! It flows smoothly and easily. The first few chapters are a wonderful spoof on writers such as Edward S. Ellis. Hilarious...
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.78.35.185
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   

There was always this amusing rumour that Thomas Pynchon and JD Salinger were in fact the same person... something I never believed!
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.159.146.233
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:23 pm:   

Ambrose Bierce and J.L. Borges, too (according to Bigid Brophy).

BTW, I've heard Thomas Pynchon is a lurker on this forum.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.159.146.233
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:26 pm:   

Brigid Brophy.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   

Rumours have had it that I'm Clive Barker and Poppy Z. Brite (not that I would be unhappy to have written their work!)
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   

There is a rumour that Gary McMahon is really Gary Fry in drag...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:47 pm:   

And if there isn't really, there should be...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.76.229
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   

There's a rumour that Weber Gregston really is Weber Gregston - unlike the Gervais/Brent pairing, this isn't an act.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   

That's not a rumour
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 10:06 am:   

The great William Gaddis was another writer that some people claimed was Thomas Pynchon in disguise. And Gaddis himself was often rumoured to be a pseudonym for William Gass!

So why hasn't Pynchon been rumbled as actually being John Barth yet? MASON & DIXON is almost a perfect surrogate for THE SOT-WEED FACTOR... That's my best guess.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.159.146.233
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 10:13 am:   

We are all each other, perhaps.
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.160.167
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 11:13 pm:   

Back again after awhile . . . lots of work etc.

I love GR and V in college. "Vineland" I thought less of, and I haven't gotten around to M&D or ATD. I am proud to say that my non-reading 17-year-old nephew made it through the "Crying of Lot 49" as part of a modern lit course he had to take at his high school. He *hated* it . . . but at least he gave it a shot!

PS: I must also shoot down those rumors that I am Thomas Pynchon, because of my first name.

PPS: I have also heard that if you hang around in New York literary circles long enough and attend enough parties, you may very well find yourself in the same room with him. Allegedly, he is quite friendly, so long as you're not from the news media.
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.160.167
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   

Des: It has just struck me: if there are rumors that TP is a lurker on this forum, than that would lead to a rumor that he is a fan of the landlord. Does anyone know if this a True Fact Worthy of "Gosh-Wow!", or an incident of Extremity-Pulling, Worthy of "Ha! You'll believe anything!" (Like "J.D. Salinger was *actually* the secret father of Dan Brown!")
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.249.6
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 01:36 am:   

Thomasb's very asking this, coupled with his deliberately sloppily-hid name, clearly makes Thomasb the prime candidate for being Thomas Pynchon.

If not... we're going to have to administer a series of tests like they did in John Carpenter's THE THING to determine who the real Thomas Pynchon is....
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:18 pm:   

Although it has been many years since I watched John Carpenter's THE THING, and my memory's not quite what it used to be, I'm fairly sure it didn't contain a scene where Thomas Pynchon was tested. I don't think he was in the film at all, was he?
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.160.167
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 11:46 pm:   

I'm extremely flattered. I shall now present evidence to support such a notion.

1) Thomasb was born in Peekskill, New York; Thomasp was born in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York. Coincidence or . . . serendipity?

2) Thomasb: born Oct. 23, 1954; Thomasp; born May 8, 1937; random entropic event or . . . preterite manifestation?

3) Thomasb is a Lee Van Cleef fan; Thomasp mentions Lee Van Cleef in his latest novel (or so I hear); mystical connection or . . . paranoid notation pattern?

What more proof do you need that I am thomasp and NOT thomasb, eh?

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