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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.163.176.9
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   

This is out months before the US cinema release - anyone seen it, any thoughts? I'll be seeing it soon.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   

Er, this;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Survival-Dead-DVD-Devon-Bostick/dp/B002VD5S6K/ref=sr_1_1 ?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268570350&sr=8-1
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 03:26 pm:   

I receieved the DVD yesterday, Tony. Will watch it this evening and let you know my thoughts...gotta say, though, I'm realy looking forward to it.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:03 am:   

Watched this last night. Good but not great. But merely good Romero is usually better than a lot of other genre director's work.

Lacking the usual social commentary, there's still enough substance behind the gore to make this a worthy entry into the rebooted Dead series. There's also Romero's mordant wit and as usual some great ideas. Don't go in expecting a classic and you'll get something out of this.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 01:54 pm:   

Someone said the use of landscape was quite beautiful. It sounds mellow, reflective, the sort of grounded work you should be able to go back to and see more in.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:27 pm:   

I'd probably agree with all that, Tony. I'm actually looking forward to watching it again. The final shot is awseome, too, and says so much in such a small way.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   

It sounds like it was told with a calm we're not used to anymore. Maybe that's why you were a bit underwhelmed.
My copy was on my way to me last week - where it go?!
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   

Oh, I wasn't underwhelmed. It was exactly the kind of film I expected. I just expect other people to be underwhelmed by it. me, I liked it a lot. When I watch a horror film I'm not looking for horror; I want all that other wonderful stuff the genre is capable of creating.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 02:18 pm:   

This review pretty much nails my own feelings about the film: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id/72298/survival-of-the-dead.html
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:14 pm:   

The repetitive criticism in all the reviews I've read is that of barely sketched characters. That would hinder it for me.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:21 pm:   

It needed a longer running time, IMHO - 85 mins isn't enough for Romero to work all of his magic.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   

Stil waiting for my copy to shamble through the post to me. DIARY was only 95 minutes long and I loved that.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   

You're right. It was all shorthand, wasn't it? The bare bones, no flab whatsoever. Diary felt quite layered to me, focussed.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   

I loved DIARY, too.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   

DIARY feels like such a Hallowe'eny film to me. And not just because it's set around then. I think it works because while some of the characters are thin, a few are deftly sketched - people you'd like to see more of.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:34 am:   

Sigh. Not as good as Diary. The biggest flaw; is anyone in zombie movies even scared of zombies any more?
:-(
Some good images, though, though some were spoiled by being clearly cgi.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:35 am:   

My horrible fear is that the next movie will be entitled 'Bored of the Dead'.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:51 am:   

The biggest flaw; is anyone in zombie movies even scared of zombies any more?

I don't see that as a flaw, you know; more of a strength. Part of the reason I enjoy Romero's zombie films is that hey aren't horror. They're something else entirely. Social dramas?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:58 am:   

Maybe that's why I'm never fully struck by them - why I perhaps enjoyed Fulci sequel a bit more. I'm a bit right brain, I think it is, while Romero's more left. I think it's that way round.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:30 pm:   

Yes, in those old Fulci/Italian zombie flicks, the people are literally frozen with fright - they stand there docilely while zombies rip their limbs off, or tear into their bodies... screaming all the while... and all not ironically!...

ZOMBIELAND proved to me that the zombies have completely lost their bite, unless someone can come along and truly revive it.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:35 pm:   

Tony, you went ahead and watched it before me! The pact! You broke the pact!

Oh well.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:36 pm:   

It doesn't look great. The lighting seems perfunctory (and poorly-motivated) which always makes things feel like TV movies.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   

Damn, Proto - I'd emailed you explaining what happened. You mustn't have got it. The pressures of relatives, not wanting to seem weird in my pact-making with net friends... :-(
As is, I'd rather of watched it with you.
With zombies, I want their nightmarishness restored. That or something else, but not this sense of threatlessness.
I'll talk more when you've seen it P. It's not terrible at all, has many good qualities.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   

Sigh - the email had been put in my drafts file. Sorry, P.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:56 pm:   

Craig - did you ever see that Living Dead Girl? My favourite ever person-being-eaten scene is in that. So moving.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   

I second you on that, Tony. As melancholic as any Cronenberg.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 11:54 pm:   

Tony, not to worry! We'll get the next one. Probably 2011 given that Romero seems so creatively spry lately.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 01:57 am:   

I'll Netflix it, Tony....
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 09:18 am:   

Thanks Ramsey! The whole of that film has become a favourite; it's lingered wel in my mind. It's imperfect, but has so much beauty and atmosphere, and as you said, melancholy.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 12:39 am:   

Romero doesn't think Dawn of the Dead is "good":

"Basically what I want to say is forgive me. I guess the basic thing that bugs me, the biggest thing that bugs me is that fans want me to do either the last movie I did or do another Dawn or do another this or do another that - and that pisses me off! That's not what I'm about! I'm gonna make a movie, look at it, if you don't like it that's fine. If you like it, then I love it. In other words don't punish me because this was not as good as Dawn. This is what I'm thinking right now, I'm making this movie right now, this is what I'm thinking, give it a break! Look at it, maybe it will take you two or three times to look at it, but look at it. All I can say is that I'm trying my best and don't punish me because it's not as "good" as Dawn, because Dawn was not even "good", it was fun, but it wasn't "good". I think this new movie, Blank of the dead, is much better in a cinematic sense than Dawn, but I worry that a lot of people might think it's not."

(Full interview here:
http://www.homepageofthedead.com/baps/)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 07:57 am:   

I agree with him. Poor guy.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 12:38 am:   

I think Dawn is accidentally "good", much like Donnie Darko (as proven by the director's cut).

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