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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
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Registered: 11-2008
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:37 am:   

As Morpheus kept himself elusive to me last night, I vainly tried to seduce him by counting sheep, so I came up with making a mental list about movies having children, be they more or less protagonists, being evil or victimized or otherwise extending a shadowy influence on the story.
Leaving aside the obvious, such as THE OMEN and THE EXORCIST, I came up with (not in a particular order):
LeRoy's "THE BAD SEED", Wyler's "CHILDREN'S HOUR"(great Shirley Mc Laine), Laughton's "NIGHT OF THE HUNTER", Clayton's "THE INNOCENTS", Rilla's "MIDWICH CUCKOOS", Losey's "THE DAMNED", Leader's "CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED", Carpenter's (flop)"VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED", Holt's "THE NANNY" (perfidious Bette Davis), Cohen's "IT'S ALIVE" (has there been a sequel?), Bava's "KILL, BABY, KILL" and "SHOCK", L.Bava's "GHOST SON", Ruben's "THE GOOD SON", Balaguerò's "FRAGILE", Del Toro's "EL ESPINAZO DEL DIABLO" and "EL LABERINTO DEL FAUNO", Polanski's "ROSEMARY'S BABY", Alfredson's "LET THE RIGHT ONE IN", Maury & Bustillo's "INSIDE", Ratcliff's "JOSHUA", Collet-Serra "ORPHAN", Serrador's "QUIEN PUEDE MATAR A UN NINO? (or about so)"
End of exercise, just for the moment.
I am sure there are a thousand more!
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 10:57 am:   

The Sixth Sense, Identity (sort of), The Unborn...I'll have to go away and come up with something more respectable than the last two.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:14 am:   

Cardone's "WICKED LITTLE THINGS", Nakata's "RINGU"...but was Sadako really human?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:21 am:   

Children shouldn't play with Dead things
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:22 am:   

...and, of course, Ji-Woon's "A TALE OF TWO SISTERS". Was "THE UNINVITED" its US remake?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:25 am:   

Eden lake, This is England
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:26 am:   

Yes. TALE OF TWO SISTERS is stunning. I love it so I haven't wanted to see the (probably awful) US remake.

Don't forget THE OTHERS and indeed THE OTHER.
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:27 am:   

Depends how you're defining "children", Weber. At what age does a "child" become a "teenager"? LOL
This could get confusing...
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:36 am:   

Weber - is Eden Lake any good? It has two brilliant actors in the leads, but I keep picking it up and then putting it down.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:39 am:   

It is very good. Tom Turgoose does seem to be a bit on a one trick pony in the acting stakes though - but the lad that played the lead in the last two series of Skins is stunning in it.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 12:08 pm:   

'Germany, Year Zero' (1947) by Roberto Rossellini, 'Forbidden Games' (1952) by Réne Clément, 'The Spirit Of The Beehive' (1973) by Victor Erice & 'Au Revoir Les Enfants' (1987) by Louis Malle stand out as the finest and most haunting and powerfully moving films about childhood I have seen.

Also 'Invaders From Mars' (1953) by William Cameron Menzies & 'Paperhouse' (1989) by Bernard Rose are great genre movies told from a child's point-of-view.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 12:15 pm:   

Oooh, great choices, Steve. Paperhouse. One of my fave all time British horror movies.

I actually like the Tobe Hooper remake of Invaders From Mars.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 12:29 pm:   

Les Quatre Cents Coups and (less famously, but it deserves to be better known) L'Enfance Nue, which Truffaut supported. And, let's see - Ozu's Ohayu? How about Lionel Jeffries' first two films as director? A High Wind in Jamaica? Certainly Cave of the Yellow Dog... If we let animation in, certainly My Neighbour Totoro, Grave of the Fireflies and Kiki's Delivery Service.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   

And - dear Lord, the old memory falters - Pather Panchali, for heaven's sake.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   

'The 400 Blows' is an astonishing film I should have included! It's long been an ambition of mine to watch the entire Antoine Doinel series in sequence - one of the great achievements in cinema imo.

But get this, Ramsey, of the other films you listed I haven't seen a single one!!
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 01:27 pm:   

You've treats in store, Stevie.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   

Son of Rambow, Le Guerre de boutons, Pelle the Conqueror, The Rocking horse winner (is that the right title?), ILS, Home alone and all the sequels...
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Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   

'The Children'(Shankland, 2008)
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 02:52 pm:   

I liked that film quite a bit, Lincoln - what did you think?
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Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 03:49 pm:   

Enjoyed it, Ramsey.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   

How about Lionel Jeffries' first two films as director?

I think Jeffries is one of this country's seriously underrated storytellers, who made great children's pictures that never patronised them. I love both The Railway Children & The Amazing Mr Blunden (part financed by Hemisphere Pictures who put money into Eddie Romero's Blood Island movies you know). Wombling Free & a poor version of The Water Babies are best forgotten, though.

Horror-wise I have to mention Who Would Kill a Child by Narciso Ibanez Serrador, and for a future Profondo Probert column in Prism I'm going to be writing about Carlton J Albright's obscure 1980 zombie-kiddie picture The Children
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   

There's also the entire output of Shirley Temple. Every one of them a horror in itself!

...why are you all looking at me like that?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   

I have seen 'Railway Children' & 'Blunden' both of which are charming children's films.

Top 10 Scary Children Films imo:

1. The Exorcist (1973) by William Friedkin
2. The Innocents (1961) by Jack Clayton
3. Village Of The Damned (1960) by Wolf Rilla - with Martin Stephens again, the scariest child of them all!
4. The Omen (1976) by Richard Donner
5. Kill, Baby, Kill (1966) by Mario Bava
6. The Bad Seed (1956) by Mervyn LeRoy
7. The Brood (1979) by David Cronenberg
8. The Children's Hour (1961) by William Wyler
9. Children Of The Damned (1963) by Tony Leader
10. Our Mother's House (1967) by Jack Clayton

I wouldn't count "evil baby" films like 'Rosemary's Baby' & 'It's Alive'.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:09 pm:   

Would DON'T LOOK NOW count?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   

Not without giving the twist away... for anyone who hasn't seen it.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:12 pm:   

Same goes for the quite brilliant 'Communion'...
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   

But Stevie, I mean more that it's a negatively child-driven movie... a child drives the story, a child's absence....
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:25 pm:   

Another great recent example was 'Frailty' (2002) directed by Bill Paxton.

I believe it's the whole "wolf in sheep's clothing" thing that makes children and horror go so well together.
Remember the evil little girls in 'The League Of Gentlemen'.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:32 pm:   

'Don't Look Now' is more a film about the dislocating effect of grief than about childhood.
The little girl is important as the focus of the story but the story isn't about her.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   

No one's mentioned the Butcher Boy yet... possibly Neil Jordan's best film to date and equally as good as the fantastic book it's based on.
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Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   

Can't believe no one's mentioned SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES, in which Clayton drew wonderful performances from the two lads playing Will and Jim. And while it's not genre, the plot of CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG is propelled by Dick van Dyke's children, and does have that wonderful creepy turn from Robert Helpmann as the Childcatcher.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   

Lord Probert - The Amazing Mr Blunden will always be my favourite children's film.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   

Frank - From reading various reviews it seems to be a film that's brought a tear to the eye of many a hardened old movie veteran!

We three kings of Orient are my dears!
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 06:26 am:   

The Juon films have a strong child theme running through them. More recently there was the 'child' in The Orphan.

The following also come to mind as films that feature children prominently:

Dark Water
Stand By Me
The Orphanage
Pan's Labyrinth
Curse of the Cat People
Fanny and Alexander
White Mane
The Wizard of Oz
The Red Balloon

Also, just about any Gamera film...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 09:12 am:   

The Child - a gloriously dodgy 1980s B movie directed by someone whose name Lord probert will remember but I can't. Produced by the same guy who produced Ax (again, my memory fails me on the name front).
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 09:28 am:   

Harry Novak. It came out in 1977.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 10:17 am:   

It did - on a double bill with Cathy's Curse - another possessed kiddie pic

Let's Play Hide & Go Kill!!!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 10:23 am:   

Of course, 'Curse Of The Cat People'... the greatest horror film about childhood ever made!
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Stu (Stu)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 10:30 am:   

Anyone mentioned Home Alone yet? I found that film truly horrifying.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 10:33 am:   

Me
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:38 pm:   

Oh, the old cells are slow! How could I forget Les Dimanches de Ville d'Avray? I found it very moving, and it's available on DVD (as Sundays and Cybele).
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:44 pm:   

Can we count Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   

I'd consider that more of a Scary Old People film. I mean what is more disturbing than an old, old woman dressing and acting like a child.

That's another one for the must-see list, Ramsey!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   

Bugsy malone

Does Pennies from Heaven count?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   

Lord of the Flies!!!!

no one mentioned it yet.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 04:06 pm:   

Twitch of the Death Nerve may not be a child-driven movie... but boy, do those kids steal the show!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZs1Af1kbNw (spoilers)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   

'I'd consider that more of a Scary Old People film. I mean what is more disturbing than an old, old woman dressing and acting like a child.'
I still feel like a kid. We're all kids, really, with suits we can't patch up or change.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   

Zed mentioned one recently ; Who Could Kill A Child? or something. Sounded good. Anyone see The Children? I found it overly arty. Horror for Guardian readers - or people who say they are.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:27 am:   

I'm a Guardian reader!
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 02:47 pm:   

Spy Kids !
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 03:06 pm:   

"Anyone see The Children? I found it overly arty. Horror for Guardian readers - or people who say they are."

See my exchange with Lincoln above, on 22 June. I may write the film up for Video Watchdog.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 12:42 am:   

My italics button seems to be buggered again

>Zed mentioned one recently ; Who Could Kill A Child? or something. Sounded good.

It IS good Tony! I mentioned it as well. Serious stuff

>Anyone see The Children? I found it overly arty. Horror for Guardian readers - or people who say they are.

Lady P & I liked it a lot, & I for one enjoyed it immensely because of its anarchistic 'let's kill them all' attitude to the very types of Guardian readers to which you may be referring!
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 01:38 pm:   

Running Scared, all the more so in the context of the final credit sequence.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   

You guys must live in a cinema. There's no other explanation for it. Like, you pay rent and pitch a tent in the auditorium or whatever. You live on a diet of ice cream and popcorn. You avail yourselves freely of the only necessity other than filmwatching: the sprinkling lavatories.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 03:51 pm:   

I watch at least one film a day while I'm at home, Gary, though generally now on DVD.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 04:16 pm:   

I don't think The Cement Garden has been mentioned yet.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   

You guys must live in a cinema.

I grew up watching movies rather than reading books, Gary, which means I have a head start where horror is concerned (and Spaghetti Westerns thanks to my mum and Will Hay, George Formby, Laurel & Hardy, Marx Brothers and any and all other comedies of that era thanks to my Dad) and Kate & I easily get through 5 movies a week now
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:54 am:   

I'm a film-a-day man, too. It's how I relax, late at night. I grew up watching movies, too, as well as reading: films punctuate the great moments of my life, much like songs do for others. The soundtrack of my life is a visual one.
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Stu (Stu)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:58 am:   

>>films punctuate the great moments of my life, much like songs do for others. The soundtrack of my life is a visual one.

Does that mean the film of your life is a musical?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:02 pm:   

Yeah, a really, really camp one. Like Glee.
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Stu (Stu)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:08 pm:   

Not a macho one like Streets of Fire?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   

More like a weird combination of the two: camp yet butch, like West Side Story.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:26 pm:   

But hold on, guys, I watch a film a day, too (well, I did before the World Cup and will do so after it), but I never seem to see as much as you lot. Weird temporal tricks, man.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   

The trick is to watch a different film a day, Gare....
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   

The White Ribbon- or has that already been mentioned? If so, my apologies.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   

>>>The trick is to watch a different film a day, Gare....

Ahhhhhhhh. OK, The Smokey and the Bandit will be consigned to its Betamax box once and for all, then.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   


quote:


quote:

The trick is to watch a different film a day, Gare....


Ahhhhhhhh. OK, The Smokey and the Bandit will be consigned to its Betamax box once and for all, then.
May one suggest this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081529/ Plus, Amazon UK has all three on DVD for eight quid, or just the 2nd and 3rd movies for just a bit more than a fiver (all prices do not include P&P; time-limited discount; all offers void where prohibited by laws of good taste).
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   

Works of unparalleled genius.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 09:58 am:   

I saw 3 "Devil children" films over the last couple of days -

The Children - I thought this was brilliant. I can't disagree more with Tony's comments above. This was one of the most disturbing films I've seen for a long while. Normally in a horror film it only seems right to kill the thing that's attacking you but in this it's more disturbing to see the attackers die than their victims. The true nature of whats happening is cleverly kept hidden from most of the adult protagonists to ensure that those who are trying to defend themselves look as bad as it's possible to be. Well worth a look

Hansel and Gretel - a very very good Korean film. In this the threat doesn't come from the fact that the lead character might die as he's rarely under threat. It comes from the fact that he can't get away from this fairytale cottage in the middle of the woods. It's fantastically creepy and we actually feel for the children as much as the lead adult.

One missed Call - all right this is a spoiler including this here. This is virtually a remake of the Ring but using mobile phones instead of videos.. It's so similar in plot and tone they should have just called it the Ring-tone. That's not saying it's a bad film, it's not, it does manage to get the same kind of atmosphere as the Ring which has to be a good thing. derivative but good.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:02 am:   

Weber, did you see the original One missed Call? I couldn't get past the first five minutes of the US remake, but Takeshi Miike's film is very entertaining.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 10:04 am:   

Original of course. I said it was good didn't I.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 03:16 pm:   

Do you know how long I took getting that Ring-Tone joke properly phrased?

And not even an emoticon titter...

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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:50 am:   

I just watched The Children and have to agree with Weber, Ramsey, Lincoln and Lord P. Bloody hell, what a truly disturbing film. It creeped me out much more than last night's Eden Lake, and because it came on like an exploitation film as if made by an arthouse director the horrors held a weird edge. Yep, liked this a lot.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 02:07 am:   

Tony, I've just seen your comments above regarding The Children.

What does this even mean? "I found it overly arty. Horror for Guardian readers - or people who say they are."
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Darren O. Godfrey (Darren_o_godfrey)
Username: Darren_o_godfrey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 207.200.116.133
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   

Perhaps THE HAUNTING OF JULIA (aka FULL CIRCLE), based on Straub's Julia would qualify?
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 220.138.161.156
Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   

I would say so, Darren! That film gave me nightmares when I saw it at the cinema in the '70s (I sneaked in to see it - it was part of a double bill along with Blue Sunshine).

Weber, I'm glad someone else here has seen Hansel and Gretel! I thought it was very good indeed. The same director (Yim Pil-sung) made Antarctic Journal, another film with an eerie atmosphere.

The original One Missed Call is great fun, despite being unashamedly derivative. The sequels were not so good, although the first follow-up (set in Japan and Taiwan) had its moments. The US remake is one of the worst Asian horror film remakes ever.

Another Korean film with a child in a central role is Acacia.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.5
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:54 am:   

I don't know if this may belong to the thread, I chanced upon the "Hard Candy" DVD where the story is told about a fourteen age girl subtly victimizing her perspective abuser during a rendez-vous in the latter's home after a chat encounter. She reveals herself to be a real avenging spider, though some of the psycopath type going beyond her reasonable motives for seducing/torturing her victim. Ellen Page's age, both as the player and the heroine, seems to over around twenty, but her acting's very good albeit in a not very good movie, imho.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:30 pm:   

I thought "Hard Candy" was a very good film...provocative and superbly acted.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:48 pm:   

"She reveals herself to be a real avenging spider, though some of the psycopath type going beyond her reasonable motives for seducing/torturing her victim."

I think it's a supernatural story: the girl is a ghost and the man is her killer. That would explain both her powers and her motivation. There's no direct evidence for that but I'm convinced of it.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.5
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   

On second thought, Zed, "Hard Candy" is good. I suppose I was led astray by the impossibility to empathize with any of the characters. But that's in the movie's favour, after all!
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.5
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 01:59 pm:   

...and Joel's reading makes sense! What about the meaning of the red anorak the girl was wearing when leaving her "killer"'s house? I don't remember having seen it before in the movie, I should watch it again.
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
Username: James_armstrong

Registered: 10-2010
Posted From: 86.185.184.209
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 03:05 pm:   

I wondered if the red hoody was perhaps drawing attention to how the film is a subversion of Little Red Riding Hood. The Wolf in disguise is seduced by the girl (reminiscent of Angela Carter's fairy tales).

It was actually the film poster that brought this to my mind:

http://www.atoww.com/wallpapers/2006/hard-candy/awp_2_800.jpg
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.5
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 10:34 am:   

...btw I've watched the trailer of "Red Riding Hood", a forthcoming would-be horror. Is it already out in UK? By the look of it, it's too reminiscent of Twilight Saga style, all slick-haired and darkly beautiful characters, a teen-targeted love story steeped in CGI monstruosity.
I am not looking forward to it, decisively, unless I'm proved wrong by critical reviews.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 86.131.51.196
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   

I enjoyed Hard Candy despite not thinking it was terribly good. Ellen Page's performance was superb and she was truly excellent, but some of the implausibilities in the script really let her down. But now I'll have to watch it again with Joel's interpretation!

Oh, and the red hoodie was supposedly pure accident. They shot the picture in what she happened to be wearing and then said, "OMG, it's Red Riding Hood!"
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.144.35
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   

I've yet to see a chicken driven movie other than Chicken Run. I'd no idea there was one in Hard Candy.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.144.35
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   

Sigh - talk about mis-reading thread titles...

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