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     Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Russell T Davies excelled himself last night. Perhaps he's after a BAFTA as a swansong. Seriously, this was brilliant ensemble acting in the old-fashioed style. Very well scripted and synchronised. And the acting was brilliant, even David Tennant's acting, but especially Lesley Sharp's. It was very frightening, I thought. des | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.74.96.200 |
I enjoyed as well. Certainly one of RTD's best, though it was VERY RTD at first. He cunningly got rid of Catherine Tate while saddling all the other writers with her, too. Though I suspect that's cos Tennent will hardly be in next week's episode and she'll be in most of it. >>but especially Lesley Sharp's. Never really been a fan, I'm afraid. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.44.96.248 |
At least she suited being an alien, sort of. Des; Tennant is a wonder, man! By the way, am I the only person who felt this could have been written by CS Lewis? The half-glimpsed thing on the toxic planet's surface, the seed of evil spreading with more than a hint of the satanic? Proto hated this too, Ally. Funny. Again I seriously think this series is the best yet. There's that sense of something we thought was becoming familiar being really stretched, and really taking risks. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.44.96.248 |
And again, this series has shown the doctor's faith in humanity really being stretched, too. Interesting. Bet Zed would love it - hang on, he was IN it! | ||
| John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.89 |
Superb stuff last night. Absolutely my favourite of the series so far. "Seriously, this was brilliant ensemble acting in the old-fashioed style. Very well scripted and synchronised. And the acting was brilliant, even David Tennant's acting, but especially Lesley Sharp's. " I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Weirdmonger. At one point I thought they were trying to act each other off the screen. Far more rivetting than special effects. And I loved the ambiguity of the whole thing. Very very good. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
Absolutely disliked it. I like to immerse myself in a plot that doesn't dash about all over the place but the repetition and sycronisation dialogue left me cold. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Well, Ally, like John P, I think it was the best of the series - if not of the whole of Dr Who canon since 1964. It had the dramatic strength of one of the Fifties Quatermass productions - or Ghostwatch - or... | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
We'll just have to disagree. I thought it laboured and I love Quatermass. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Well, disagree, but not argue.  | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
Oh God no - forgot to put a smiley face there, Des. I don't like the automated faces - will this be okay :>) Didn't mean to sound abrupt - that is always the problem with online discussion. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
I was going to make a joke then, by repeating verbatim the whole of what you just said, Ally. But I thought better of it.  | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
I'm on my second coffee and thinking about just how broad the cannon of horror is. As an aside - I got to a part of HANNIBAL last night where I had to cover my face and I still can't erase the memory of it. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
I mean canon. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
What - the film? I heard about the bit in the book where he and Clarice eat some guy's brain and decided I couldn't read it. I must be a wimp becuase if I like a character too much and see them go bad it'll upset me. And that Straub story, Blue Rose, as well written as it is I can't read it again, and am dubious about approaching Straub again, too. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
Horror is in every genre, I think. Whether it's dealing with mere loss as in romance or whatever there's a tinge of it, or a family in debt it's there. It might be thin but it touches everything - even joy is coloured by it because we know it passes, and the feeling is deepened by it as a result. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
Sorry Tony - Didn't want to sleep or read so I put the telly on and watched some of the film. Yes, it was that part with the brain. Turned it off and went to bed. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
When they were trying to kill the doctor last night it was quite upsetting, I thought, btw. The look on his face as his precious humans were dragging him along the ground was painful, and in his eyes when he was holding Donna. Very bleak - and yet positive in that Donna is nice! Dang. Maybe the message is that not many people are nice. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
'Touches everything' - very true Tony. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
In the book Clarice joins in! I hate it. It's the mud at the bottom of the barrel. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
Silence of the Lambs won a stoker one year.1988. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.59.70 |
I've been thinking about the whole history of horror this weekend and coincidently when I turn the telly on or look at other boards Thomas Harris seems to be about. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
From the clips shown I thought the episode would be the usual camp, slightly hammed up, pantomime fare. I was wrong. The story, acting and script were high quality. Although the futuristic sets were quite poor and some of the actors were better than others. But small gripes. Some of the lines were excellent, e.g. the midnight sun, the darkness, the cold, etc. The exploration of group dynamics and the less savoury aspects of human nature were well done and convinceing. It was also good to see the Doctor being challanged and at genuine risk and his responses to this - Tennants acting talents shone in parts, not the usual bombastic stuff he sometimes fills in with. This was an excellent, albeit flawed, episode. Excellent story, acting, script and dialogue. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
The Doctor now feels so much a real person you can almost smell him. He almost lives and breathes. Wonderful. | ||
| Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts) Username: Martin_roberts Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 80.2.9.127 |
I thought it was Russell T's finest moment in terms of the episodes he's written, as I've always preferred Steven Moffat's episodes... and Lesley Sharp was a brilliant choice of casting for this episode - and it was nice to see her again (Afterlife was a great series). I can't imagine anyone else in that role... | ||
| John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.253.174.81 |
It's weird isn't it? The minute I saw Lesley Sharp I knew her character would be one that would probably be requiring some quite intense acting. Anyone know if director Alice Troughton was related to actor David Troughton? If so it's a nice and probably unintentional link but a few of the Patrick Troughton stories had a simliar atmosphere of claustrophobic menace (Tomb of the Cybermen is marvellous) | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
I agree with the comments above that this was definitely RTD's finest hour as a Dr Who scriptwriter. The second ex doctor offspring to appear this series as well. It really hammered home how long ago Troughton was in charge when I realised it was the old man who was his son. No wonder i've never seen a Troughton episode. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.180 |
And this last three look like sending the series out with a bang, too. Apparently RT has pulled out all the stops to make it the most blitzing ever - and (and this makes me shiver) it'll clear the way for Moffat to take over with a blank slate... Anyone else goosepimpled by this? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
If the Dr had agreed to chuck eyeliner lass out first then the hostess would have survived. Why does the doc keep thinking new life forms are nice? Has he even seen his own show? They always kill you, for no real reason. I just hope he's learned his lesson and kills all things new he sees, with a boot in the chops. I have no elecricity. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Electricity, meant. I wasn't portraying an oriental. |