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     Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
After last night's victory in Euro 2008, Turkey are still in the competition and you may well win a few quid in the TTA sweepstake. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
I didn't know that, Gary. I lost interest after I pulled Turkey in the sweepstake. Blimey! Thanks. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
I was more interested in the Big Brother thread on TTA! | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.93.30.31 |
Amazing game that. It is the only Euro match I've had time to watch all the way through, and it was a great game. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Nobody interested in Big Brother? Did anyone see Mario blowing into that huge oily brassy thing? | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Who Alex? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
No himself! | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
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| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Is BB always going to call Mario coitus interruptus to the diaree ooooom? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Mario? you mean The Joey Hulk? Imagine a film were a white man turns into a big black man, like he's a werewolf...but just a big black man. Nah. That's a crap idea. Wipe it from your minds! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Inversely, there's a black bloke on BB who has become completely white, ie an albino. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Why can't it happen the other...oh, I see. And ANOTHER mouthy black lass with 'tude. That's attitude. It's like they have done it on purpose to spark another race row. She has at least added to the last girl's habitual catchphrase. "I'm not TRYING to be funny, right." Not that I've seen any of it since my electricity has been off since saturday. Oops, my shell suit is showing. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Working late in the library, Albie? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I had to sit around in my flat waiting for the landlord to come and bypass my stupid electricity meter. I've had no electricity since Saturday night (still saw Dr Who). I'm back on the grid now, just in time for HEROES. You can only get so much entertainment listening to a local station on a Poundshop torch radio. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Oops, I forgot. Alex has been chucked for threatening peeps with her gangsta' pals. Didn't see that coming...not! I'm so down with it. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
*weeps* Don't tell me anymore about your life, Albie. It's Dickensian horror. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I had to eat a block of cheese. And it was mild cheddar and didn't taste of anything! I had to get drunk every night to cope with the lack of my mummy and daddy. BBC1 and 2. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Quoting myself... Despite all its faults, there is no other theatricality like BB. It is both fabricated and real. The tragic 'albino-faced' Shakesperean mock-Japanese shrew that shall never be tamed, never be shamed, acting better than any actress, behaving worse than any real people. Both Coriolanus and a Macbethian witch in one vast yet paradoxically small performance. Bex in the karaoke booth was vintage BB. What a lightsome contrast. They could not have created it better with a great script-writer. The best scripts often just happen. Darnell still seems like a winner to me. Sylvia says she doesn't speak English properly, but I find her word perfect. Warming to her, despite her two-facedness. I'm sort of glad Mario has been saved. He is another Shakespearean character, a mixture of Ricky Gervais in 'The Office' and Sylvester Stallone (or Jackie Stallone?), unself-conscious comic relief. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Still got my eye on Turkey, btw.  | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Turkey won! And how! Blimey! Couldn't believe that last few minutes. And did you see Lisa and Mario - and the custard cream! OMG! 'Abigail's Party' taken to horrithongous lengths! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Sylvia as a bunny-boiler has occured to me. The fastest into that mode often turns out to be the most virulent. A friend of mine has a theory about Mario & Lisa. There cannot possibly be a real couple like that. If there is, then one fears for all sorts of sanities. Also, it is unlikely that they are moles or ligottian puppets of BB by acting the part of such slime-pies, willie w*nka and his dame. No - what is happening here is that they (Mario or Lisa, or whatever their real names are) are making fun of BB. They feel BB has been patronising enough in the past. BB has always acted as master. So, M & L are acting a part to ridicule BB, pretending to be people they are not, acting brilliantly and increasingly as quite unbelievable specimens of humanity to see how long they can be believed as real. I hear from various sources that Turkey is likely to lose to Germany. Don't you believe it! | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Maybe they are long lost brother and sister and don't know it yet. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Lisa and Mario, perhaps. But maybe Germany and Turkey, also. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
This seems to sum up the aims of the (horror?) art - and of brainstorming: ========================== "To succeed in assuaging reality a work of art should: 1. Respect the profound and innate sense in us of nature’s fundamental reactions, and not too much outrage them: for then we are led to compare the work with its subject, which brings us back to the literal reality (as a monster reminds us of the normal creature). 2. Yet remain, nevertheless, at such a distance from nature’s aspects that the disturbance introduced into habitual aspects may deprive us momentarily of our rationalizing facilities. Thus some illogical woman’s argument, falling suddenly into a closely reasoned discussion, unhorses the arguers and makes us ponder." --from ‘Foundations of Modern Art’ (1928) by Amédée Ozenfant ============================== | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
>>>Thus some illogical woman’s argument, falling suddenly into a closely reasoned discussion, unhorses the arguers and makes us ponder." Ergo, women are better artists.  | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Exactly, Gary. But they've had a raw deal because the ruling men, in the past, have held women back by false barriers - hence, a relatively small percentage of painters and composers in the past bear women's names. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Either that, or they were too busy gossiping. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
That sentence about "illogical" women in the above quote intrigued and amused me because it is - in itself - an UNHORSER (as a sentence in that context)! | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.55.33 |
Gary - Cheeky puddin' 'Ergo, women are better artists' = correct. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Mendelssohn's sister had some cracking little ditties. However, whenever she revealed them in chamber rooms, there was an uproar. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Amy Beach? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
well, is Turkey going to win tonight? My team in the TTA Sweepstake. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
No way, Jose. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Half time: Well, whatever else you can say and whatever happens next, Turkey are no walk-over. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
I'll grant you that. I'm actually rooting for em now. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Great match. We wuz brill! If I'd managed to see the whole match on the screen, I may have turned it around with my magic fiction. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Alas. They wos cheated. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
To quote myself.... Painting smudged, face splashed. A combination of events - (mainly Jen's incapability to accept Rex's apology (an apology that had been seriously given) regarding an admittedly stupid act of vandalism but, after all, an act done in the context of the Big Brother Show) - led to all sorts of repercussions and already pent-up emotions to explode. BB was right to evict Dennis and Dennis was right, eventually, to be ashamed of his behaviour. I was also dismayed at behaviour by Stu, Dale and Bex. Quite sorry to see Sylvia go. She had a bit of spirit, although two-faced and petulant and childish. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
As it's got my name in the title of this thread (and I didn't start the thread), I thought I'd post this link that someone pointed out to me about me from a golf club site: http://foxvalleymetrodiscgolfclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=362.0 | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Above golf club conversation has encouraged me to post below: Front cover art work here: http://www.ligotti.net/showpost.php?p=10478&postcount=28 for 'Best of DF Lewis' (1993) intro by Ramsey. Shows link to all the internal artwork. | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.149.134.59 |
In the book, or in you? | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Great artwork there. Really disorienting collage work and great in the B and W. This kind of assemblage work can be so effective when done like this. Good stuff. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Thanks, Karim They are amazing, aren't they? I've now added another from the book at the bottom: the original Nemonymous in 1993?? | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Thats a powerful and disturbing image indeed; now I need to read the fiction! | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
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| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Des, speaking of black and white artwork, this is a frame from a collage short film I have playing July 12th at the Supersonic festival in Birmingham with efterklang called The Symphony of Jessica Noise. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.184.20 |
Reminds me of Un Chien Andalou. That and the moonface in The Mighty Boosh... | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Part of that image is from Un Chien Andalou as it is a collage film that edits many bits of film together into a different whole. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Speaking of which: Bruce Connor RIP July 7th Bruce Conner, a pioneering collage filmmaker and Beat-era assemblage artist, died yesterday. He was 74. Conner is best known for his experimental cut-up films made from found footage and TV advertisements. In the decades since his first gallery shows in the 1950s, Conner collaborated with the likes of DEVO, Terry Riley, Brian Eno, and David Byrne. Conner’s first and possibly most famous film, entitled A Movie (1958), combined his thrift store hunting process and his use of still photography. It is referred to as the piece that brought Conner to notoriety. In skillfully editing stock footage, Conner created abstract metaphors of mankind's violence. He subsequently made nearly two dozen non-narrative experimental films. While Conner was living in Massachusetts in 1963, John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Conner filmed the television coverage of the event (near Kennedy's birthplace) and edited and re-edited the footage with stock footage into another meditation on violence which he titled Report. The film was issued several times as it was re-edited. Bruce Connor RIP | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Great picture, Karim. The only films I can watch these days - if I watch any at all - are black and white films. Colour tends to destroy the suspension of disbelief and is associated with the fabrication by special effect. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I less dadaist. One more mamaist. Sniff. I should have felt the death in the air. Maybe I felt it years ago. Maybe it won't occur for months to come. ( albie's face sweeps to one side like a fleshy curtain and his skull explains...) I'm comparing linear time to the cut up's sense of time. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
When I was a kid I always supposed that the world was in Black and White when at war, especially from watching WWII documentaries. There was of course quite a bit of colour film shot during WW2, which also became part of a documentary series. Lots of filmmakers Albs have certainly delt with the notion of time in experimental film. Can I photograph your skull as it deconstructs time and reality? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
My skull is on a strict curfew for over stepping his boundaries. (the fleshy curtain of albie's face flutters and twitches for a moment) I'm going to get some of them shutters John Stalker is so fond of. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Maybe your skull needs its own agent and entertainment lawyer. Someone needs to handle the contracts and magazine spreads albs, for your skull, then things might seem less complicated, and run smoother. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
That's how things got out of hand. I let my skull go off and get an agent, before you know it he's posing for the covers of Pan Books of Horror and starring in Hamlet. He got too big for me. Luckily the fame got to him, the drugs the sex the move into politics...he's better off where he is. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/panspersons/ph12.jpg Let me tell you, that isn't snow. That's his party trick, sniffing his way out of man shaped pile of columbian. The girls loved it. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I just hope my skull doesn't escape out the back door again. The lock isn't strong. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
Maybe the skull can be persuaded to do a big comeback, maybe star in a 3rd generation horror film remake. But we'd get it some respectable indy film roles as well, maybe some theatre. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
Perhaps the skull could be bejewlled in cheap gemstones and star as a form of space diety in a retro SF film? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
The skull isn't real guys. I don't really have one. Sheesh. People on pills, eh? | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
You just say that because your skull is getting all the attention in the limelight | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
I know! I KNOW!!!!!  I tried to get a few gigs as the floppy faced man, while he was off. But it never caught on. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
You just need the right wind conditions. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Karim: When I was a kid I always supposed that the world was in Black and White when at war, especially from watching WWII documentaries. There was of course quite a bit of colour film shot during WW2, which also became part of a documentary series. It is absolutely true that life was once in black and white (the many surviving uncorrected films etc evidence that). But then we all had colour injections in the sixties - remember those? - well, if you do, you and I are very rare people whose brainwashing didn't work and still recall the film 'Gone With the Wind' in black and white. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.92.216.182 |
:-) colour injections? People sure must have gone nuts with colour. Like the arrival of sound in film. And now next year lots of films in 3D. I'm 31 so my generation came to conciousness in the mid eighties when Rambo was happening. What ? :-) | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
To quote myself... Mario facilitates his own exit as well as future puppy love between Bex and Luke, removed the custard cream from the biscuit and passed it over for others to ooze. I loved Lisa's rendition of Schoenberg songs in the Diary Room. Genuine modern classical vocals. No joke. Lisa is indeed a dark horse, now. With her steely glances, big ears and mind-over-matter skills, she could be the new novelty act to beat. The new clockwork clown with marionette muscles padded by silicon. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29 |
Fair warning to the very few interested in my work. Sooner or later, I intend to delete the whole 'Weirdmonger Wheel'. Therefore, when that happens, the only DFL works available in the world will be the stories in the 'Weirdmonger' book (Prime 2003) and the quotations HERE from TLO. | ||
| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 192.26.212.72 |
Des, Neglect not those works published in print media which can still be tracked down and acquired either first- or second-hand. Why, I expect that one day copies of Irregular Quarterly #1 shall be worth in excess of a dollar! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29 |
'The Piano'! Indeed, Jamie. Thanks. Around 1500 stories in antique mags. I forgot about them! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.165.37.175 |
Exhuming this old Big Brother thread ...It's now on Channel Five! Below is an Extract from my latest on-going Big Brother report elsewhere: ================ The only sensible Housemate is Essex Girl Amy Childs whose mind has nice colourful fish swimming in it - an edgeless pond. Pre-CBB interview: Gilbert and George Jedward: Can we do really naughty things and then you punish us with things that look like punishments that our unique and unified talent can exploit and enjoy? Channel 5; (rubbing collective hands together): Well, boys, it is your programme. Everything and everyone else will be there simply to put your fledgling superstar in position and then orbit round it. Jedward duly high-five each other rather too vigorously, emitting a playful "Ouch!" Everyone is indeed orbiting the twin-balanced Jedward star. Well, except Pamela, of course. She's formed from Chaos at the Bubbling Centre of Infinity - ? |