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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.131.108.22
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 01:28 pm:   

I've just ordered a wii game called Cursed Mountain - from the reviews it sounds wonderful. Also, the other day I found the original Silent Hill game for the old playstation at a charity shop and bought it. I put it on the other night and it's as gripping as a novel in it's simple way (my oldest - who's seen The Ring and The Exorcist - begged me to turn it off!). My only experience of horror games is the Resident Evils, the last I played being set in Africa - it was far too fast and uninvoliving to possibly enjoy even if it did look astonishingly beautiful. Any tips, thoughts on other games to try? I hear the wii has a Grudge game.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 01:39 pm:   

I've been playing Mario Galaxy with Charlie, on the Wii. It's bloody brilliant - and utterly addictive.
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 217.20.16.180
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 03:04 pm:   

I gave CURSED MOUNTAIN a miss as the reviews weren't all that hot. I'd be interested to hear how you find it, Tony.

If you're enjoying the original SILENT HILL, its two immediate sequels (on the PS2) are both outstanding. The second one in particular.

There was also a recent Silent Hill game on the Wii (SHATTERED MEMORIES), which is a strange remake of the first game in that it takes the original set-up and characters and then does something radically different with them.

Other horror games worth a gander are CALL OF CTHULHU: DARK CORNERS OF THE EARTH on the original Xbox (or PC), and ETERNAL DARKNESS, which was on the Gamecube, but will play on your Wii - assuming you have the right kind of controller.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   

Games what I love:

Dragon Age
Fallout 3 (the bestest game in the whole world ever)
Bioshock 1 and 2 (creepy as hell)
Alan Wake (Stephen King, the video game)
Mass Effect 2

Can't wait to play Red Dead Redemption and Fallout: New Vegas.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.103.153
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 06:02 pm:   

Lots of thumbs up for Half-Life 2 from me. It's a few years old now but still excellent.
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 99.241.48.210
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 06:42 pm:   

Silent Hill is one of my all-time favourite game series -- glancing up at my shelf, I own at least three of them, plus the soundtrack for every one that's been released. I even thought the movie was quite good, although it was largely panned.

The Resident Evil games have always been more about shooting than fear, but this has become far more the case since they fixed the controls with the last two games -- the one you played being the second of those two.

The Grudge game is more of a "haunted house simulator", IIRC -- you wander through a darkened house being scared by various things.

You might want to check out the Fatal Frame games. They're Japanese horror games in which you, as the protagonist, are armed with a camera, not a gun.
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   

Jamie's right - the Fatal Frame (or Project Zero, as they're known in the UK) games are terrifying, although you do have to get used to their somewhat laconic pace.

I'll second the recommendations for Bioshock, Half-Life 2 and Mass Effect above. And Fallout. In fact, I'm about to spend a little while on the sequel now...
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
Username: James_armstrong

Registered: 10-2010
Posted From: 86.173.124.62
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   

Another great (and frightening) Japanese horror game is Forbidden Siren. The player’s main weapon is stealth and the ability to hijack the perceptions of the possessed townspeople in order to avoid them. It is a surreal experience and one to be sought out.

I agree with the praise piled on Silent Hill and would say the third was my favourite. A large part of the fear felt whilst playing the game is due to the visceral experience of feeling constantly under threat from the hellish surroundings; something difficult to translate to cinema (the adaptation didn’t really do it for me.)

As a more recent game I would recommend the astounding Limbo, A dark and innovative independent work that creates a narrative in the way only video games can (and should continue to do so). The visuals and sound are both beautiful and unnerving - they also prove that technology will never overcome the importance of creativity and vision.

Here is a small trailer just to give a taste of the visual style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HSyVXKYz8
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:13 pm:   

Bloody games are just so addictive. I love Fifa 11, but it's hardly up Tony's street.

Jon, I just got Red Dead' - will let you know what it's like.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:16 pm:   

Doom on the original Playstation used to mangle my psyche. I recall walking around Bradford indoor market and thinking about strafing while lining up headshots.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   

>>>Lots of thumbs up for Half-Life 2 from me.

Just the two, surely, Mick?
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   

Red Dead is excellent. Far superior to the Grand Theft Auto games.

DOOM on the Playstation was the game that got me back into gaming after a bit of a gulf following the 8 bit era. Not sure how you managed headshots though, Gary, that was back when all you had to do in an FPS was wave your gun in the general direction of the enemies and press fire.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.103.153
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 11:11 pm:   

>>>Lots of thumbs up for Half-Life 2 from me.

Just the two, surely, Mick?


I'm all thumbs, me.
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
Username: James_armstrong

Registered: 10-2010
Posted From: 86.173.124.62
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:05 am:   

I envy those who are yet to play Red Dead Redemption; I couldn't put it down for weeks. It's Probably one of the best games I've played. It's also quite a tribute to the Western genre and doesn't just fall back on shoddy cliches.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 08:18 am:   

John, I weighed up headshots and then just blasted the fuckers to oblivion.

But seriously, you're right. The shotgun was my favourite, but the chiansaw was fun, too.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
Username: Stephen_theaker

Registered: 12-2009
Posted From: 62.30.117.235
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 09:56 am:   

I've just come back to Dragon Age after a year-long break and I'm enjoying it a lot. It's kind of weird how you can program your teammates with the tactics options, but satisfying when it works. I've told my dog to charge into any enemy mages, knocking them down.

I don't play online very often, but if anyone wants to compare high scores on Xbox my gamertag is Rolnikov.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 10:14 am:   

I go way back to the days of ZX Spectrum. I have owned in my time Speccy, Commodore 64, Amstrad 464 ("You're fired!"), Amiga, Atari ST, Playstation 1, N64, countless PCs, XBox 1, and now '360.

I guess this makes me a compoota nerd.

I rather enjoy YouTubing footage of stuff I used to play. Man, Ridge Racer - a marvel in its day - looks rough now.

Does anyone recall the genius who was Rob Hubbard? Ben Daglish? Martin Galway?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 10:38 am:   

Gary Fry: Game Geek.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 10:45 am:   

Well, if you think a Wii is cutting edge, you need a vet. :-)
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 93.186.20.140
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:31 am:   

Jeff Minter?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:47 am:   

Llamas!
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:59 am:   

I'm not a game geek, Gazzy, I have a Wii because they're family-friendly.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   

I own no consoles and have no intention of ever do so.

Just thought Id say that.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   

I should have a Wii, because I'm currently getting the piss taken out of me. :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   

Weber, you have my console-ations.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:18 pm:   

My Top 10 computer games of all time (in no particular order):

Manic Miner/Jet Set Willy (and derivatives),
Pac-Man (and derivatives),
Defender (and derivatives),
Breakout (and derivatives),
Super Mario Bros (and derivatives),
Tetris (and derivatives),
Doom (and derivatives),
Command And Conquer (and derivatives),
UFO : Enemy Unknown (and derivatives),
Half-Life (and derivatives).

That's off the top of my head.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   

Weber - I'm with you: they're pretty dull and pointless, but the Wii is great when you have kids.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   

They're certainly not dull! Pointless? Well, yes. Like most things we do to while away the hours between cradle and grave.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   

Computer games are another one of my great loves. They transport you out of the body like no other medium of entertainment and are brilliant for honing mental sharpness and hand to eye reflexes. It is no surprise that first-person-shooters have become an important training tool for military forces throughout the world. But more than that they are such great bloody FUN!!

As long as you keep them in perspective and don't allow them to take over your life... short sharp bursts, then pick up a good book instead.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   

I think Zed needs converting to some proper stuff. Fifa 11 is genius, for example.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   

I never got caught by the game bug, chaps - I spent my youth indulging in other equally pointless activities.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.31.118.252
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 01:38 pm:   

Who needs computer games?

http://uk.specials.lifestyle.yahoo.com/christmas/article/features/the-most-dange rous-toys-ever-made.html
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 01:58 pm:   

I had a chemistry set as a kid in Bradford. If I had one there now, I think the Home Office might be interested . . .
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 02:32 pm:   

Btw, Zed, I don't think a bit of fun is pointless. On the contrary, it's probably essential. I've certainly come to this conclusion lately. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. And a stressed out one!

And I certainly don't think my gameplaying youth was wasted and pointless. I enjoyed every minute of it. Woe betide those who don't have good memories from of their past.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 03:52 pm:   

I agree with all of that, mate - I just don't think vieso games are fun (never have). It's a personal taste thing, innit?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 03:53 pm:   

You spotty games geek.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.142.147.0
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 04:05 pm:   

I love computer games, specifically two types:

Horror shoot 'em ups like Doom, Doom 2 and Quake, the original of which I thought was just marvellous. If any one can suggest anything out there now that's similar I'd be very grateful.

Really complicated fantasy RPGs (bet you'd never have guessed that). I've played The Elder Scrolls as each game has come out - Daggerfall made me an addict and I'm still on Oblivion, which Lady P has now been introduced to.

Sometimes they're absolutely the best way of distracting me from my worries - in fact on occasion they're the only thing that can, and so I'd say that - yes for me they're a hugely valid methof entertainment
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 217.20.16.180
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   

I rather enjoy YouTubing footage of stuff I used to play.

Gary - Pop over to the World of Spectrum website - they have a vast library of old Speccy games available to play within your browser (all legal and above-board, copyright fans!). I'm sure there will be a Commodore and Amstrad equivalent out there somewhere.

A lot of the games are a bit hard going these days, but the very best of them stand up. THE GREAT ESCAPE, TARGET: RENEGADE, CHAOS, REBELSTAR and, an all-time favourite, HEAD OVER HEELS.

JLP - if you're a fan of OBLIVION then you need to get on to FALLOUT 3. It's basically Oblivion in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Mind you, there's a new Elder Scrolls game out at the end of 2011, so you may want to save yourself for that!

Xbox Live tag is Auld Scratch, if anyone wants to paste me on Halo at any point!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   

Zed: I burp in your general direction. You can't help being an old fuddy duddy, can you, wo ho ho ho?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:13 pm:   

Thanks, John, but I don't think I could play such stuff these days. The notion that those were the days in which gameplay took precedence over graphics is, in my view, bollux. They were just baaad games. (hampered by system limitations, of course).

Mind you, I have infinite respect for the programmers, especially when I send an email of 50K, which is bigger than a whole ZX Spectrum game!
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.103.153
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:16 pm:   

Lord P. - have you tried Doom 3? So much scarier than the earlier ones, and very effective, especially the bit where you're wandering around in the dark, with your crappy little torch the only available illumination...
As to other stuff mentioned - I went from a borrowed BBC B to an Atari ST to a PC, and have stayed with PCs since '93.
As for Jeff Minter - he is a programming god for bringing us stuff like Llamatron, I reckon.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   

Yes, but what about Rob Hubbard? Anyone know this living legend?
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 217.20.16.180
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   

I know of him, Gary, although not being a C64 kid I never really got much of a chance to appreciate some of the incredible tunes he wrung out of the hardware. I was too busy listening to bleeps and bloops on the 128k.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 05:29 pm:   

I'm an old fuddy duddy too, and proud of it! I never really got into computer/electronic games. I had an old Spectrum and Commodore (when I was really old enough to know better!) but the damn things took so long to load up the games I just couldn't be bothered. Never took it any further - just didn't see the appeal.

I love that link to old and dangerous games/toys. When I think back to some of the things we played with as kids, they'd never be allowed now. I, too, had a chemistry set - lots of nice chemicals (don't know how dangerous they really were) which you could mix to make stink bombs and such like.

There was another game I particularly remember. It had a metal "gun" with a large spring which shot a wooden cotton reel type thing at these targets. The idea was you hit the head on the targets (I seem to recall they were all anthropomorphic animals of some kind) and they swung over to reveal a different head on the same body. Not only were the "bullets" quite dangerous (I'm sure you could have taken someone's eye out with it), but the gun was really spikey too.

Tiddlywinks could be quite dangerous if you got one of those counters in your eye too!

Anyway, does anyone play board games nowadays? You can't beat a bit of Monopoly, Cluedo or scrabble as far as I'm concerned.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.103.153
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   

I bet Joel's not a fan of Monopoly!
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.46.183
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 07:41 pm:   

I can't play FPS games like Doom or Quake - they give me migraines.

I love some of the classic PS games like Silent Hill and Fatal Frame - they are wonderfully atmospheric and creepy. It's like playing in your favourite Japanese ghost film.

On a completely unrelated note: wish me luck, guys! I'm off to the hospital this week for more tests to help determine whether or not I will need surgery for my assorted spinal woes. My pain management doctor said he will be switching me to morphine, so maybe I will be able to post a bit more than I have been lately.
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
Username: James_armstrong

Registered: 10-2010
Posted From: 86.173.124.62
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   

For any Doom fans with a 360, the first two are available to download on the Xbox Live Arcade for quite a reasonable price. It's safe to say they stand the test of time - they're still creepy (despite the dated graphics) and extremely addictive.

Hope all goes well Huw.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.225.41
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   

Very best of luck, Huw. Sincerely hope it works out.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   

Thinking of you, Huw. I wondered how things were going for you pain-wise as we hadn't seen you around here much. I'm still doing nicely on the Lyrica myself, but my pain problems are primarily neurological rather than to do with any physical injuries. I'm not bad enough to warrant morphine. Anyway, hope it all goes well for you.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 09:06 pm:   

Good luck, Huw...I've been thinking about you quite a bit lately, btw. I miss you around here.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 88.111.137.29
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 10:45 pm:   

"On a completely unrelated note: wish me luck, guys! I'm off to the hospital this week for more tests to help determine whether or not I will need surgery for my assorted spinal woes. My pain management doctor said he will be switching me to morphine, so maybe I will be able to post a bit more than I have been lately."

Wishing you well, Huw.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.103.153
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   

Good luck Huw...
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.49.195
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 08:59 am:   

Thank you all!

Caroline, I am hoping that the morphine will have more effect than the stuff I've been taking for the last few years. I've been holding off on it for ages but it's got to the stage now where it's hard to function without some relief (the discs between my vertebrae have completely collapsed in places, and the bone is grinding on bone). I'm a difficult case, as I have both 'regular' pain and neuropathic pain. I still haven't been able to find Lyrica here.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.201.94
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 11:03 am:   

Zed, I forgot to thank you for Pretty Little Dead Things! It came about a week ago, but I've been so preoccupied I never got around to emailing you to say thanks.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.142.147.0
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 11:28 am:   

Huw - Our best wishes to you! Hope everything goes well!
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.202.166
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   

Thanks, Lord and Lady P!

Caroline, your doctor not prescribing you morphine or other similar drugs is not necessarily an indicator of the degree of pain you have. Opioids are not generally the first line of medicine used to treat neuropathic pain - the antidepressants (Cymbalta, amitriptyline, etc.) and anticonvulsants (Lyrica, etc.) are usually tried first. A lot of people find them useful for pain resulting from nerve injury.

I am hoping to work out a system with my doctor that limits my morphine use to the occasional dose for flare-ups, rather than taking it regularly (thus avoiding dependence).

Tony, sorry for derailing your thread! I didn't want to start a whole new thread about my health problems, but I feel like I've hijacked yours now...
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   

I was an Amstrad gamer back in the day and the epic expanded version of 'Jet Set Willy' was easily my favourite, the one with a rocket on the roof that takes Willy to the moon, etc... wonderful game.

Platform games are my favourite genre, closely followed by first-person shooters. I remember the first time I experienced playing 'Doom' in a mate's house - I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

After that I love turn based acrade-strategy games like 'Red Alert' or 'UFO : Enemy Unknown' and get hopelessly addicted to puzzle games like 'Tetris' and the legions of variations it inspired.

Big RPG adventure/strategy games look wonderful but I just haven't the time to invest in them, and can easily understand how some people lose their identities in those huge online worlds.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 07:15 pm:   

Hey, just read your post - good luck, Huw. Hope it all works out for the best. My thoughts are with you.
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   

Best of luck, Huw!

A quick look at my shelf would betray that my three favourite genres are JRPGs like Final Fantasy, survival horror games like Silent Hill, and, um... professional wrestling games. I have more pro wrestling games for more systems than any other genre.

One of the game genres that doesn't get much love over here in the West these days is the game-creation-game, like the old Adventure Construction Kit for the C64 and others, or more modern titles like RPG Maker and its sequels. I think the second Little Big Planet is going to recapture some of that, but alas I'm a generation behind in my consoles so I shan't be playing it any time soon.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   

John, I've seen the trailer for Elder Scrolls V and must confess I'm already feeling a rather childlike excitement in anticipation of it!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 04:14 pm:   

The other genre I absolutely love is the isometric 3D platform/exploration type game. Going right back to 'Knightlore' and reaching its pinnacle with the 'Little Big Adventure' games imo. Yeah, 'Head Over Heels' was a classic and there was a brilliant 'Batman' one, in the same style, as well. I can feel a frenzy of nostalgic gaming coming on over Christmas!
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 08:27 pm:   

Stevie - there are great remakes of both the Jon Ritman/Bernie Drummond BATMAN game and HEAD OVER HEELS over at the Retrospec remake site here: http://retrospec.sgn.net/games.php?link=finished

Both remain very playable indeed.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 12:06 am:   

Thanks for that, John! I'm off to have a trundle around lol.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 11:58 am:   

Couldn't get 'Batman' to work on my PC, but then I noticed their remake of 'Jet Set Willy' and spent half last night playing it. Truly magical and just as impossible to "finish" as I remember!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   

One of my proudest achievements in life is still managing to finish 'Manic Miner' on the Amstrad, without recourse to cheats, and in front of a group of mates. How we cheered!! I swear I've never experienced tension like jumping over that penguin, with one life left, on the final screen...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   

I hope you've asked Santa for a life for Christmas, Stevie...
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 04:13 pm:   

I did, and he gave me one, in Leeds...
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   

Yeah, Gary gave me one in Leeds once. Couldn't walk for a week.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 11:27 am:   

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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 11:59 am:   

I might give Stevie one in Leeds, if we manage to meet up over Christmas. Lucky, lucky Stevie.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   

Yeah, you like to spread your Gary love around a bit. You shameless tramp!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   

Here was me praying my flight wouldn't be cancelled on Friday... now I'm not so sure.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 08:30 pm:   

Couldn't get 'Batman' to work on my PC, but then I noticed their remake of 'Jet Set Willy' and spent half last night playing it. Truly magical and just as impossible to "finish" as I remember!

Stevie - if memory serves, Jet Set Willy literally was impossible to finish. It was released with a series of bugs which meant you couldn't collect all the items required to complete the game! (not that I ever got anywhere near finishing it)
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   

Tony, I guess I've played most of the best 'Horror' games out there on most platforms over the past 10 years or so. My favourites (scariest) would be :

Amnesia-The Dark Descent (PC) SCARIEST.GAME.EVER.
Silent Hill and Silent Hill 2 (Playstation)
Fatal Frame 1 and 2 (Playstation)
Forbidden Siren (Playstation)
Dead Space (PC)
F.E.A.R (PC)
Call of Cthulhu-Dark Corners of the Earth (PC)
DOOM 3 (PC)
Left 4 Dead (PC)
System Shock 2 (PC)
Bioshock (PC)
Thief-Deadly Shadows (PC)
Anchorhead (PC) A wonderfully written, atmospheric, old school Lovecraftian text adventure.

I'm sure I've left a few out.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   

I've played hardly any of those, Sean!

John, the version of JSW I played was the expanded and corrected version on the Amstrad, which I was believe was finishable, in the same way I believe pigs can fly. The joy of that game was in the exploration and the vast amount of loving detail, as well as constantly trying to beat my "objects collected" score. I'm an unreconstructed retro-gamer, and still think the 1980s was the golden era of video games - for sheer addictive playability and simplicity. Many of today's games put too much attention into the graphics and background detail, at the expense of playability imo.

Zed, did you get my email with mobile number? Contact me on Hotmail or by text if ya still fancy a pint or two this week.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   

>>>I'm an unreconstructed retro-gamer, and still think the 1980s was the golden era of video games - for sheer addictive playability and simplicity. Many of today's games put too much attention into the graphics and background detail, at the expense of playability imo.

Sorry, Stevie, but I think that's just a lazy cliche. And completely untrue.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 07:28 pm:   

I played JSW as a kid and thought it was infuriating. But there was nothing else to do, cos it was always fuckin raining and the only football I could afford was a Wembley "blowaway". Then some bastard nicked my BMX.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 07:29 pm:   

Dynamite Dan was even worse because it had a health system. Bad invention. Shoulda just stuck to dead or alive.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 02:36 am:   

Gary, it was that very "dead or alive", no cheats, no continues, no forgiveness of mistakes, back to the start attitude that made 80s video games so damn addictive, compulsive and truly testing... in a way that modern video games can never hope to recapture.

In a way I am reminded of the purity and imagination that went into silent comedy cinema. You got what it said on the tin, with no baggage and no extraneous detail, and they still entertain in spades the way early video games do, imho.

I loved 'Dynamite Dan' because of its complete random bonkersness and the sheer speed at which the game was played. It brought platform games onto a whole new level as far as action was concerned. Much as 'Technician Ted' did with sheer complication of the tasks.

BTW I'm just in from a Leeds pub crawl and quite proud of myself at being able to type this with anything approaching competence!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 03:22 am:   

Games shouldn't lose their inclusivity, which is what early video games had in spades, and too many modern video games lack imo (though by no means all)... now apply that to my analogy of early cinema comedy compared to modern comedy.

Here we have the great problem of progress. The more people are included the wider the choice (a good thing) and the less the shared experience and wonder of a new medium (a bad thing).

This applies as much to the novel (i.e. Dickens) as it does to cinema (i.e. Chaplin) or TV (i.e. Bilko) as it does to video games (i.e. Jet Set Willy)... etc.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 09:10 am:   

Nah, I have to disagree. We played those early computer games because they're the best we had: but they really were shit. :-)

Eg, I never got the same sense of awe from any of those games I might get from sweeping across a Mexican landscale in Red Dead Redemption.

Stevie, have you actually participated in any modern games?
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 09:57 am:   

I got addicted to computer games when Iwas a kid and was given a ZX Spectrum. Luckily for me the thing bust after 5 months and it took Dixons six months to repair it, during which time I got my life back and saw sunlight. Barely used it after that.

These days I've had a little play on other people's machines but I've found that if I do so it eats up my imaginative energy and I dream in blips and pixels. So I stay clear for the most part.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 11:08 am:   

I like the way folk equate playing computer games with lacking a life. Well, what can I say? Maybe just some random examples:

To an ardent gamer, reading books is lacking a life. To a stockbroker, reading books and playing games is lacking a life. To a traveller, sitting at a PC and playing the markets is lacking a life. To a family man, going round the world with no roots is lacking a life. Therefore, my conclusion: everybody has a life and everyone lacks one.

So I guess I'll just try and do a bit of everything to hedge my bets.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 11:09 am:   

AKA Recreational Imperialism strikes the RCMB!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   

Brilliantly put, Gary, and I totally agree with you about the sense of awe the best modern games can generate. That sense of exploring a fully immersive 3D world is something I could never tire of, as long as they have compulsive playability and simplicity of control as well- like the best first-person shooters imo. The fiddly, convoluted ones that involve a lot of aimless wandering about admiring the scenery, fulfilling pointless tasks, leave me cold I'm afraid. I'm also frustrated by those so-called exploration/adventure games that lock the player into a linear path that cannot be deviated from. Give me the freedom to roam at will, armed to the teeth, spraying bullets any day.
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 07:41 pm:   

Have you played the Undead Nightmare expansion pack for Red Dead Gary? It's great fun and actually quite eerie despite the more tongue in cheek tone.

I'm just about to sink my teeth into the new Fallout!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 08:01 pm:   

Not yet, mate. But it looks great.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 08:31 pm:   

There are plenty of old school style games out there if you miss them, especially on XBLA. Trials HD could have been a Spectrum game if it wasn't for the astonishing physics. Then there's stuff like N+ and Super Meat Boy.

Ordered myself Fallout 3 GOTY and Red Dead Redemption seeing as no one got me them for Christmas. Doubt I'll get around to playing them much unless you can switch off the gore and swearing...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   

Huh?
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 - 10:13 pm:   

I didn't have a life when I was gaming. Gaming was somewhere to go so I didn't have to live my life. And the quality of the games back then didn't merit such commitment. Maybe the better ones do now. I am mildly interested in the narratives behind these newer, bigger games.

Huw - sorry, my earlier post on here to you has vanished. Very best of luck. Let us know how you go on.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 09:42 am:   

Huh?

Sorry, could have been clearer. I'm more likely to find a bit of time to play a game if I can play it while the kids are around. I can play a racing game in the background while Ranjna and the children are up to some crafty homework project on a Sunday afternoon, but GTA4 I can only play once everyone's in bed.

That's why I left it so long to buy those two games - I doubt I'll find much time to play them.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 09:54 am:   

Mark: I hear you.

Stephen: Ah ha! It all makes sense now.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 06:08 pm:   

"Give me the freedom to roam at will, armed to the teeth, spraying bullets any day."

Stevie, see 'Oblivion' or 'Fallout 3' or 'Grand Theft Auto 4' or 'Far Cry 2' on Youtube. All of these (and dozens more) encourage you to go wherever and do whatever you want taking as long as you want. There are 'main' plotlines to follow but these are entirely optional. The games give you the freedom to explore your own way and in your own time. If you want to uncover the main plot and 'finish' the game you can do that. You can also wander off and do your own thing uncovering side plots that would otherwise remain hidden.
To me the best modern games are the ultimate interactive imaginative experiences we yearned for whilst playing 'Jet Set Willy' or 'The Hobbit' on our ZX Spectrum's and Amstrad's. They exhibit just as much imagination, skilled writing and artistic design as the best horror or sci-fi movies.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 07:15 pm:   

I agree, Sean. But I do think characterisation must play a part in them, in order to develop richness. The Rockstar team clearly understand this.

Btw, the Half-Life games hired Ramsey discovery Marc Laidlow as their story man.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 07:51 pm:   

Btw, the Half-Life games hired Ramsey discovery Marc Laidlow as their story man.

Ooh, didn't know that. The Half-Life series of games are some of my all time favourites.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 08:10 pm:   

And isn't Graham Joyce working on the story for DOOM 4?
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 10:42 pm:   

Half Life 2 with episodes 1 and 2 is probably my all time favourite 'first person shooter'. It's linear but then so is an orgasm!
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   

:-) Indeed, Sean - and I'm currently most of the way through Episode 2 (again!)...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 10:51 pm:   

Now you really do need to get a (half)life, Sean. :-)
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 11:01 pm:   

Lol! Roll on episode 3.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   

Roll on episode 3

Indeed - it's been a long wait.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 11:56 pm:   

Yeah, it seems like it's been Half a Life-time.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 01:39 am:   

Here it is. Anchorhead. The single most atmospheric ,Interactive, Lovecraftian story I've ever played. Very impressive and available now, free, in your browser. Impossible to stop once started. Do type 'HELP' at the first opportunity for info on how to play these text only games.



http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2F zcode%2Fanchor.z8
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 09:08 pm:   

Hm, I think I'll have a go at that, Sean...

Oh, and Gary F - getting yourself one of these?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/07/commodore-64-returns
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   

Ooh, very nice -- although I'll hold off until I learn more about the emulator software.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 11:52 pm:   

Portal 2 is out soon
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
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Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 09:01 am:   

> Here it is. Anchorhead. The single most atmospheric ,Interactive, Lovecraftian story I've ever played. Very impressive and available now, free, in your browser. Impossible to stop once started. Do type 'HELP' at the first opportunity for info on how to play these text only games.

I played Anchorhead years ago and it is excellent, a must for fans of Lovecraftiana.
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James Armstrong (James_armstrong)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 01:39 am:   

I've been disorientating myself with Portal 2 for the last week. It expands the first in every way possible - one especially interesting addition is the concept of redirecting various liquids that give surfaces differing properties. The physics are truly awesome and the puzzles are baffling but never seem overly daunting or absolutely impossible, encouraging the player to experiment.
The story is more epic in scope and includes genuinely funny voice acting from Steven Merchant and J.K. Simmons.
What might attract most people though is the co-op mode - four portals meaning much higher difficulty and a real test of lateral and collaborative thinking. Word of warning - if you're an experienced player don't play with someone who's never played the game before. If you do and don't end up looking like a condescending arsehole you're a better person than I am.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 09:31 am:   

Portal 2 is a great game. Played and finished it last week and then went back to play the original all over again. Brilliant stuff.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 11:56 am:   

I'm currently playing Red Dead Redemption, which is truly a work of art. Utterly beautiful, brilliantly plotted and acted and vast in scope... I'm just blown away by it.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:00 pm:   

There's another one for our shopping list then!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:10 pm:   

"Hail to the King, baby", "Come get some", etc...
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 05:27 pm:   

Can any 'Horror' gamers recommend 'I Am Alive' ? Out for the PC on Steam next week.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 09:29 pm:   

Can any 'Horror' gamers recommend 'I Am Alive' ? Out for the PC on Steam next week.

Not really. The premise is decent and there are some nice touches, but it's very short (5 hours or so) and gets repetitive very quickly.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 11:26 pm:   

That's a shame as I was looking at the trailer on Steam earlier after Sean's query and I thought it looked quite good.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 12:51 am:   

Only 5 hours! I thought it was a much longer game. Mind you Alan Wake was described as around 10 - 15 hours to play and I've clocked 20 hours already over the past few months. I haven't even finished episode 4 yet. I like to take my time soaking up the spooky atmosphere.
I see they are releasing 'I Am Alive' early now. Tomorrow in fact. I'll probably get it anyway as I'm a fan of the bleak post apocalypse setting in games.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 07:07 pm:   

Don't get me wrong, you may well enjoy it. I did, initially, then something else caught my attention and I just never went back to it.
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David_lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   

I've not tried it myself yet (though it's sitting in my downloads folder) but there's a free horror game floating around online called Slender, based on the Slenderman character, which I've heard good things about. It seems to involve wandering around the woods at night trying to collect notes while not running into the Slenderman.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 11:09 pm:   

I've heard of that, David. Looked basic, but quite tense.

Some of you might get a kick out of this blog post from a few weeks back, by the way: https://johnrforth.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/horror-in-video-games-a-personal-his tory/
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 12:25 am:   

Excellent blog there John. Your horror gaming history mirrors my own almost game for game with a couple of exceptions. You really must try Amnesia: Dark Descent and its best mods. I believe it also has a full sequel due out very soon. Eternal Darkness was indeed superb and Dark Corners of the Earth is, i agree, the best Mythos game thus far.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 08:31 pm:   

Amnesia looked very much up my street, Sean, but alas I'm strictly a console gamer. I doubt my laptop could cope with it.
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David_lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 09:18 pm:   

Werewolves of London! I used to play that on my Amstrad loads...never won it though, I usually got bored and went on a killing spree until there were so many cops chasing me the game slowed down to an unplayable crawl.
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John Forth (John)
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 09:37 pm:   

Werewolves of London! I used to play that on my Amstrad loads...never won it though, I usually got bored and went on a killing spree until there were so many cops chasing me the game slowed down to an unplayable crawl.

Yep, that's a familiar story!
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2013 - 04:02 pm:   

I just discovered this, it's a kickstarter for a Cthulhu mythos game set in the Berlin subway system. It looks pretty good but sadly still has £60,000 to raise with only three days left, so it doesn't look like it's going to make it.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/u55/u55-end-of-the-line
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2013 - 04:59 pm:   

Here's my take on computer games...

We are at the start of the 21st Century and the form is just beginning to come into its own as a startlingly complex creative medium - but is still light years behind any kind of artistic relevance.

Now step back 100 years and consider the medium of Cinema as a gimmick to provide harmless entertainment and thrills to the goggle-eyed masses.

Then consider the two, factor in the advances in technology since and try to predict when Computer Gaming will come of age as a sometimes serious Artform.

My own prediction is around the year 2025 - "God" willing! But, already, there are early works of simplistic yet complex purity (such as 'Jet Set Willy') that will, one day, come to be venerated as much as the early comedies of Chaplin or Keaton or, indeed, those of Griffiths, Murnau or Lang... any suggestions, folks?
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 03:11 pm:   

I loved Jet Set Willy. It must have been my first childhood experience of surrealism. I used to play it for hours, never trying to actually win it, just seeing what else I could discover, what lay beyond that room I couldn't quite get past.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 03:50 pm:   

In my opinion 'Jet Set Willy' was the first truly immersive computer game. Set in the nightmare world of poor married Miner Willy (forever terrified by the looming vision of his hideous fishwife) it struck a chord with computer geeks everywhere - this one included - and has been expanding ever since while always staying true to its own internal illogic and concrete physical laws. Matthew Smith was a one-off visionary genius. The Chaplin of "primitive" computer gaming.

To this day one of my proudest achievements was being able to finsh 'Manic Miner' without recourse to cheats and in front of awestruck witnesses way back in the day - after months of hair tearing and explosive expletives! Timing the straight jump over that final penguin was the single most terrifying moment of my life! I conquered my fear and entered the last glowing doorway... to find myself right back at the beginning again ffs!! I hate that bloody hooter beast!!!!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 04:00 pm:   

I first became acquainted with 'Jet Set Willy' on my mate Sean's Spectrum - and fell instantly in love with the complex simplicity of the game and the sheer impossibility of completing it... while always desperate to see one more room and collect one more shining object, with that orgasmic "ting" sound as glorious accompaniment.

Can you imagine my amazement on upgrading to an Amstrad and purchasing the same game only to find not only Willy's mansion expanded but a completely unexpected trip to the Moon as well!! Not to mention a hair-raising descent into the very bowels of Hell with all those bastard little jabbing demons with their pitchforks!

Then imagine my discovery of a whole online community of Willyphiles and countless unique reimaginings of the game, all sticking to the same basic simplicity of exploration, the lure of collecting just one more seemingly inaccessible object and the beautiful ease of controls. Truly there is a God!

Whatever happened Matthew Smith?
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 04:40 pm:   

I've never heard of Jet Set Willy. I just googled it, and played it on a simulator, and could only last about 1 minute with that brain-meltingly frantic electro-faux-Bach soundtrack. Everything else about it? Insufferable piffle. I hereby bequeath it: zero stars.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 04:42 pm:   

You have no soul, man!!!!
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 05:30 pm:   

There was a very good clone on the Amiga called Top Hat Willy which I used to play a lot - I just found a PC port of it, but it isn't compatible with Windows 7. Blast. There was also a JSW clone/creation tool for the Amiga that let you design your own rooms which I had great fun with.

Apparently Matthew Smith is here: www.matthewsmithishere.com
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 05:34 pm:   

I've also started playing Limbo recently, I got a copy through the incredible value for money charity Humble Bundle (www.humblebundle.com). The eerie atmosphere and deceptively simple silhouetted graphics are amazing but as a game it's disappointingly weak. Unresponsive controls and pure trial and error gameplay make it a bit of a chore to get anywhere with.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   

I just read a pretty good article about horror gaming and the over-used trope of scary mental institutions.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/27/editorial-horror-and-a-maddening-lack -of-imagination/
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 04:57 pm:   

I gave up on Limbo for just the same reasons, David...
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 05:22 pm:   

Yeah, I got to a bit where you have to guide a rolling tire across a couple of moveable platforms in a factory, but it required a level of precision timing that the controls made almost impossible. I quit there and I doubt I'll ever go back to it now, which is a shame because it's a really beautiful game.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 12:36 am:   

This studio has released a freeware, retro-style Halloween fan game in time for, er, Halloween.

http://pigfarmergames.com/

They seem to have a few very 80's slasher games in development or available for download.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 05:19 am:   

I love the trailer! It's weirdly disturbing all on its own—and of course, the homage to weirdly disturbing 1980's VHS tapes/companies, too....
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 02:51 pm:   

A couple of interesting upcoming horror games popped up on Rock, Paper, Shotgun today.

White Night is inspired by Alone in the Dark and Hitchcock and has a noir-ish black and white graphic style that sees you solving light based puzzles in an old mansion. It looks gorgeous.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/15/white-heat-white-night-is-beautifully -unnerving/

The Rapture Is Here And You Will Be Forcibly Removed From Your Home is a free atmosphere piece in which you wander around in the twenty minutes before the end of the world, with a voiceover reading Lovecraft extracts.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/15/wot-i-think-trihaywbfrfyh/#more-18450 7
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 10:41 pm:   

White Night definitely looks like one to watch David. The free Lovecraft one wasn't bad at all.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2014 - 06:20 pm:   

The art in it is gorgeous, I just hope the game lives up to it.

Looks like someone else is taking a crack at a Call of Cthulhu game. There's only some concept art so far, but it's very atmospheric: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3273470/next-gen-call-of-cthulhu-announced-by- magrunner-dev/
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 04:24 pm:   

If anyone's interested Knock-Knock, an unusual but apparently very good horror game is reduced to a shade under £2.50 for the next 24 hours on gog.com:

http://www.gog.com/game/knock_knock

There is an unusual cabin deep in the woods. It had served as a laboratory and a dwelling for three generations of Lodgers.

But as of late the latest Lodger has been noticing weird changes in familiar surroundings; things are missing, noises and rattle heard. Something odd is coming out of the woods. Come night, it seems like someone's made himself at home in the twilight of rooms, attics, and cellars.

You need to stay awake and sane till dawn.

The Lodger is wandering the rooms, evading the unknown, counting minutes till morning. But it's only in the night that he can solve the main puzzle and find the answers. What's going on? Are the Guests real, or are they just figments of his insomniac imagination? What'd happened to the forest? What's happening to the cabin? Is there a line between reality and imagination?

The developers of Knock-Knock have chosen to shed some light on the unsettling origin of their creation, on their official website: In late November, 2011, a strange and troubling event has happened to our studio. We have received an anonymous e-mail which suggested that we should produce some "unconventional" game based upon the materials attached to the letter. Such offers are a dime a dozen and most of the time they barely deserve any attention at all, however, this one seemed quite different.
The attachment contained a set of 19 files added to an archive titled "lestplay". The files (snippets of text, scraps of audio recording, video footage fragments) as well as the style and wording of the message itself appeared to be rather disturbing. The surface examination did not reveal anything straightforwardly terrifying, yet we could not escape the feeling that something truly sinister was lurking underneath. The stranger was begging us to complete the project he has started, yet he also made us well aware of the risk we took as the proposed ludic situation would potentially explain what calamity befell whoever has compiled the ominous archive, thus urging ourselves to meet the same fate.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2014 - 11:46 pm:   

I recently stumbled across Cry of Fear totally by accident:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/223710/

It's a free horror game very much in the spirit of Silent Hill. I started playing it tonight and so far it's been very impressive, full of genuine tension, atmosphere and frights. It also uses the original Half-Life engine so it should run fine on just about any computer.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 11:07 pm:   

Yep David. I have it on my hard drive. It gets very scary indeed. I found the abandoned Apartments almost unbearable to get through. For a free game it is excellent and has genuinely adult and disturbing themes throughout. It got under my skin so much I had to take frequent breaks from playing. I have yet to play 'Afraid of Monsters' by the same creative team. Also free to download. Another horror freebie which runs on the Half life 2 engine is 'Grey'. I couldnt finish it...
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 06:47 pm:   

Absolutely Sean, I'm really impressed with how effective it is. There have been a couple of points where an initially scary encounter becomes just a bit frustrating as you try to get through it (the sewers, particularly) and I thought the mood was starting to wane but it always ramps right back up again. You just feel so vulnerable and isolated, all the time.
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Playloup66 (Playloup66)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 11:58 am:   

I'm playing through Cry Of Fear at the moment as well.I've just reached the apartment building and there's certainly some effective scares so far!

Not bad for a free game.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 12:06 am:   

I just finished it tonight. Overall it was definitely very good, the atmosphere and frights did wane a bit towards the end but I suppose that's inevitable with a horror game that long. Quite an interesting explanation for what was going on too.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 08:01 pm:   

I feel quite lost now I've finished Cry of Fear. I'm still wanting that sensation of being trapped in dark, claustrophobic hallways, dreading some awful thing coming rushing and screaming into the weak glow of my light.

I've downloaded Afraid of Monsters and actually, miraculously found my old Half-Life CD so I can give it a try. Grey looks good but I'd need to buy HL2 to run it.

I'm also very much hoping DreadOut, which is out in a week's time, turns out to be good and able to run on my PC. It's heavily inspired by the Project Zero games, which I absolutely loved.

http://dreadout.com/
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 08:56 pm:   

I thought the Project Zero series was excellent David and am looking forward to Dreadout. For now, I've just started 'Outlast' which is on sale for 5 pounds on Steam right now. I had worried that it might not run on my 7 year old PC but it runs really well. There are no weapons. Just a video camera and some battery management to contend with. Oh, and lots of running and hiding. http://store.steampowered.com/app/238320/
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 09:56 pm:   

Ah! I'd seen that deal as well but just assumed it wouldn't run on my PC...I bought it this year, but it's not a gaming PC, just a dual core machine with no graphics card. It might be worth a risk at that price. My last laptop was only up to running games from 2004 and earlier, so I actually have a decade of gaming to catch up on. I'm keeping an eye out for bargains on games like F.E.A.R., Dead Space and Call of Chtulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth too.

I downloaded the demo of DreadOut tonight and it seems to run fine for me. I only tried it for a few minutes...the camera view is very odd, your character is way over on the left of the screen rather than centered, which will take a lot of getting used to. It feels like you have no peripheral vision on your left, as if the character is blind in one eye.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, May 16, 2014 - 02:58 pm:   

I bought DreadOut on its launch day yesterday but it might be a while before I play it. It's actually been split into two parts, as releasing the whole thing in one go turned out to be too ambitious for the indie developers, and I have a ton of other stuff to play right now thanks to some cheap deals on Steam this week. It's got universally positive reviews so far with the main criticism being that part one is a bit short and (naturally) doesn't have a satisfying ending. Normally I would have waited until both parts were released before buying but I wanted to support the project.

I've been playing Doom 3 this week, which has been quite underwhelming. It's not awful but is very easy and quite repetitive. I got Doom 1 and 2 along with it and I'll probably end up playing them more. Bioshock or Metro 2033 are probably up next.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 06:15 pm:   

David, since you also enjoyed the 'Project Zero' games and have 'Dreadout' in your library, I cannot recommend the Asian Horror game 'White Day: A Labyrinth Named School' highly enough.
It is an older South Korean PC game from 2001 which never received a release outside Korea. Only recently has some clever PC horror gamers put out an English translation and patch for it. It is a certified cult classic game. I have only been playing it for a few nights now but can vouch for it's capacity to absolutely terrify as only the Asians know how. This game MUST be played at night with headphones on for full effect. Yes, the graphics are a bit dated but are on a par with Cry of Fear. If your PC can run 'Half Life' it will run this no problem.
It is the thick, claustrophobic atmosphere and scalp prickling sound that set this one head and shoulders above any other modern horror game i've played in the past few years. In fact, since this was made in 2001 it seems to have been the catalyst for games like Project Zero, Amnesia and Outlast. And me being a horror games nerd had never heard of it! It's now Abandonware status and so FREE to download!
Stay away from any Youtube clips as you will only spoil that 'first time' experience.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/month-free-horror-ii-day-29-white-day-labyrinth- named-school
http://www.moddb.com/games/white-day
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 08:00 pm:   

All this talk has inspired me to have another crack at finishing 'Half Life'.

I am sooooo behind the times with computer games these days. I'm talking years and a PC that's so old now it can't even run the internet anymore. It's been all 'Candy Crush' and 'Clash Of Clans' on the iPad recently. Time for a proper blast again!
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 09:17 pm:   

Hey Stevie, since you can run Half Life ok you can also run 'Cry of Fear' and 'White Day'. Both FREE games and both the scariest i've played in years. I dare ya!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 09:22 pm:   

Bugger! I've had to start 'Half Life' from the beginning again but at least it still works on my decrepit old PC. It's a great game and I haven't had a 3D pov blast in too many bloody years! Set to medium as I want a challenge but I'm not a masochist. Okay, here goes... I'm sure it'll all come back to me as I go along. I'd previously made it about two thirds through the game and know well the joys to come.

I can only imagine how good the games you guys are playing must be by this stage. My head would probably explode!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 09:31 pm:   

It's amazing how quickly the controls come back to you! Like riding a bike. I reckon it's about 6 years or more since I played one of these games!

I'd download it if I could get the internet to run without crashing, Sean. Can only get online on my iPad now. Badly need a new PC!!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 09:36 pm:   

Is there a clue in the two paperbacks I just found in Freeman's locker? 'The Orchid Eater' (1994) and 'The 37th Mandala' (1996) by Marc Laidlaw. Never read him.

I'm bloody hooked again already!
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 04:19 pm:   

Oooh, thanks for that Sean, I'm downloading it right now. I had vaguely heard of it before but it was so obscure I didn't know much about it, and as it was Korean I didn't see much point in tracking it down.

I've mostly been hooked on Saint's Row II for the last week or so, it's a Grand Theft Auto clone though it did have a tiny bit of horror content. There's a tourist attraction in the city called The Phantom Caverns, when I first went into them a man with a blank face came out of the crowd, walked towards me then vanished. There's also a side mission you can do for a porn producer whose credits include Cock of Cthulhu starring D.P. Lovecraft. Hmm.

I've just discovered this one, it's another mod (for a heavily updated version of Doom II, of all things) and won't be out for a while but it sounds fascinating. It's a sandbox horror game set on a version of Hashima Island, which there's a thread about on here. There's no weapons, you have to use the environment to evade/kill the monsters and it seems like it's going to be totally freeform, so you can solve the core mystery if you like, or explore, or just try to survive. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/21/total-chaos-doom-2-mod-graphics/
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 04:20 pm:   

Oh, Stevie, it wouldn't be any trouble to burn those two games onto a DVD and post them to you if you want to try them?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 04:40 pm:   

Hey, David! That would be great if you could. Those games sound bloody marvellous. I'll text you my address.

I'm blasting mutant monstrosities to pieces here with the volume cranked up to the max and it's fantastic lol!! That's me well and truly bitten by the bug again.
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2014 - 04:40 pm:   

Okay, it turns out I can't send you Cry of Fear as the only way to get it is as a download through the Steam software these days, unfortunately. White Day is burned to a CD and ready to be posted though.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2014 - 04:57 pm:   

Thanks, David. Much appreciated. I'm not looking up anything about the game as I want to come to it, and the whole experience of these kind of games, completely fresh. Hope my heart can stand it lol.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 03:18 am:   

Thanks for sending the disc, David. Either I'm doing something stupid or my computer just isn't recognising it as there doesn't appear to be anything on it!?
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David Lees (David_lees)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 06:29 pm:   

Hmm, there should be two files, one is the game and other is the language patch. I did check they were burned on before I sent it.

Oh, it won't auto-load or anything, you'll need to open it like a folder then unzip the files onto your hard drive.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.1.56.95
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2014 - 11:48 pm:   

Would it have anything to do with the fact that I'm still running Windows XP?
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 176.248.60.181
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2014 - 05:33 pm:   

I wouldn't have thought so, you should still be able to read the disc like a folder, though I'm not very familiar with XP.
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 176.248.60.181
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 06:12 pm:   

In case anyone doesn't know, the summer Steam sale is on now. Lots of cheap horrory goodness - Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth is only £2.99 and the Amnesia games are going very cheap as well. I've also got my eye on Paranormal, which seems to be a randomised haunted house game which has reviewed well.

http://store.steampowered.com/
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 176.248.60.181
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2014 - 07:10 pm:   

Ooh, some additional horror bargains for the next 24 hours: Outlast is £3.74, Lone Survivor (a 2D Silent Hill-inspired game) is £2.74, Betrayer is £2.99 and Slender: The Arrival is £1.74.

All on the front page.
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 2.121.220.176
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 01:12 pm:   

The team behind the pretty decent horror game Scratches are trying to Kickstart an adaptation of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward right now, and S.T. Joshi is involved. There's a good interview here about trying to faithfully adapt Lovecraft's horror into game form.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/10/02/case-of-charles-dexter-ward-interview /

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