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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 11:33 am:   

Did I miss the discussion about this weeks episode?

I thought it was really nicely done. I like the way he's brought all the spin-offs into the action now, passing references to them this week, but they were all spotted iin the preview of next weeks episode.

Something definitely seems to have gone wrong with Russell T. he's actually started writing properly satisfying episodes of Doctor who. The last two have been raivals for the Moffat crown.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.103.184
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   

I agree. Doctor Who now stresses me out because it's so overwhelming in allsorts of ways. I was actually anxious about watching this weeks because I knew it would dip me deep in emotional and imaginative turmoil. Now that IS daft.
And great.
And this is the best series. Of Who, or on telly.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 85.158.137.195
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   

The Moffat ones were very good, as were the two after that (the broken-down tourist truck one and the one about Donna changing the future).
It all looks promising for the last two episodes, although the fact that it seems as if daleks are involved makes it less appealing for me.
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Albie (Albie)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.244.67
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   

Yeah, but Davros.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.103.184
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:35 am:   

It's RTD's last story, and it's Who, so it had to be Daleks really.
And Moffat isn't perfect you know, folks; Jekyll was decidedly bumpy.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:37 am:   

I really liked Jekyll. I was very suprised to fine Steven Volk refer to it as execrable in Black Static. Thought that was a might bit strong. It may not have all been perfect but it was a cracking story and I thought Nesbitt was very good.
WHO is the utter bollocks at the moment. This has been a rocky Season 4 at the start but the last 4 eps blew me away, Moffat's especially.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.103.184
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:44 am:   

Oh, I'm not saying Jekyll was bad - it was just some of the directorial choices/touches were a bit poor. Tsk - nothing to do with Moffat! What the hell is with me this morning?
Volk can talk. Afterlife was too often awful.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.143.25
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 03:00 pm:   

Never saw Jekyll - I'm not saying that Moffat is perfect by any means, simply that when I look back on Dr Who in the last few years since its rebirth, the episodes that stick out are Moffat ones.
RTD did a good job with MIDNIGHT though, assuming it was he wot writ it.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.103.184
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   

It was.
That and this last one have really stuck in my mind. That last one actualy frightened me - the stuff about living in that busy house in Leeds.
And i LIKE Leeds! (apart from the scary bits that feel like another country - not racism, just a kind of fear, like an intense shyness.)
I think i was trying to say Moffat has been lucky with his directors in Who, and that a director can make a difference.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 212.74.96.200
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 07:25 pm:   

My feeling about the series is it would've been better with a different actress playing Donna. I'm looking forward to the finale, but it's looking a bit like "all the gang's here" for it. Except, I suspect, poor ole K-9...

Daleks again, true. But at least they're scarier than the newly designed cybermen. Pity they didn't show up for the last series finale and the Doc and Master could've banded together to defeat them . . .
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.132.52.195
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:32 pm:   

I guess I gotta be the party pooper and bring y'all down , but I haven't been too impressed with this series of 'Who.

Oh, there have been good bits - Catherine Tate has been surprisingly good, Bernard Cribbins is always good value for money.

Billie Piper..rather wasted opportunity in last weeks episode (what the hell has happened to her voice???!) 'reset' button episodes are always fun but this one couldn't compare with say, Star trek: Next Gen's 'Yesterday's Enterprise' or even Star trek: Enterprise's 'Twilight'.

Both great episodes.

I just have found this series of Who a bit tired and the scripts all too humdrum, Midnight & the Library 2-parter were good stuff..but I feel the series needs a rest ...Or some seriously new attitudes towards scripting.

It lacks imagination. take the far off alien worlds...Always seem to be occupied By blokes in today's clothes.

Whereas in episode 2 of the 1st (Ecclestone) series the 'far-off' future seeemed wierd and eclectic - I think the series has failed to embrace that & expand upon it.

There's so much potential in this series! - but it frustrates me as it is trapped in a cycle of predictable plots, all the tales seem to be the same. the spark of imagination seems...to have dimmed.

But hey, its still fairly entertaining, but it should be more than that.

Davros...Daleks...A roster of Torchwood types amd old companions.

Nah. Ain't so impressed.

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.143.25
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 09:11 pm:   

Davros...Daleks...A roster of Torchwood types amd old companions.

Nah. Ain't so impressed.


Well indeed - the last episodes of each series haven't been too good imho; RTD seems to want to throw too much into the mix, on the grounds, possibly, that if one monster seems scary, ten of 'em will be ten times scarier, and that doesn't work.
So far, of this series, only the library ones (although the walking dead's speech had echoes of "are you my mummy?") and Midnight were really good; the one last week certainly had its moments, as Tony says, the Leeds bits were affecting, but it seems to be slipping back again to an sfx party.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.77.53.118
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:53 pm:   

"I just have found this series of Who a bit tired and the scripts all too humdrum, Midnight & the Library 2-parter were good stuff..but I feel the series needs a rest ...Or some seriously new attitudes towards scripting."

Both of which are happening fortunately. I think Season 4 has been less consistent than the last 3 but there has been some very good moments.

Still one of the best things on telly.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.157.153.231
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 09:33 am:   

Weird. I really do think this has been the best, or has contained the best episodes. Funny. If it's familiar maybe that's our fault because it IS familiar.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:07 am:   

I was watching Trial of A Timelord last night. Good God but that's bad telly. Miscast Doctor, terrible set design (apart from the frankly awe-inspiring space ship model shot from Ep 1), a terrible script from Robert Holmes (how did that happen?) and a feeling of a series sinking very very fast.

Cheered myself up by watching the rest of Season 2 of Gavin and Stacey. Charming and brilliant. Lush!

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