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     Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
The once-perceived future, as it has now turned out to be, is (as I view it from the present) very bizarre, quite beyond the visionary powers (as I recall them) of any of my past selves. Those past selves themselves, also, have turned out, in retrospect, to be quite beyond the empathising powers of my current self or, indeed, of my future selves (as I currently visualise these future selves likely to be in the ever-re-newing future ahead). | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Er, you watching the match on Wednesday, Des? In the pub? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
If I'm not infected by bird flu in the meantime. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
"Er, you watching the match on Wednesday, Des? In the pub?" Coffee/screen interface moment! I read that and my mind supplied the suddenly deepened voice of GaryFry. Replete with manly frown and playful/ concerned punch to the shoulder. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Speaking of GF. Has anyone else noticed he looks like a Bond villains henchman? Take a good look. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Griff, the man who always sips his hot beverage in advance of reading each post, despite innumerable mishaps involving said substance and the electrical equipment on which these messages are posted. Does he never learn? Alas, not. Something in the way. A knot of synapses, hard-wired to resist computation of external, inputted phenomena, particularly that concerning the involuntary application of warmed liquids mixed with granules upon the kind of screen which invariably comes along as part of a package when one visits a high street and says to the willing sales assistant with his happy frown, "Please, hie thee to thy store room and furnish me instanter with a singular and decidedly adroit model of latter-day computation. Tarry, sir, I have evaporated lumps of Brazilian extract to spurt forth, and not a solitary moment to lose." Returns. Boots up. Brews up, come to that. Fetches brimming mug to machine. Summons Campbell from the depths. Takes a fancy to a thread. And...reads. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
I'm just bustin' yer balls, Gazza. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Er, I know. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.103.184 |
Gary, that was very funny. Alas the coffee cup by my side was half empty and cold, and I'd not drank any for five minutes. Actually you know, Ramsey himself is a bit blofeld now you mention it. Anyone know if he has a white pussy? | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.103.184 |
And Des - explain what you're trying to say, where it came from. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.17.91.5 |
Gary it makes you sound like MrLogic out of Viz  | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
And Des - explain what you're trying to say, where it came from. I'm afraid it came straight from the refinery of my head. I wanted to edge towards a concept of one's 'self' as a series of selves (Proust did something along these lines in 'Remembrance of Things Past') - each self an autonomous entity with its own perspectives throughout time and perspectives of each other's perspectives of each other's Selves ad infinitum, ad absurdum - a bit like Elves scampering mischievously about the winding labyrinths of one's life, mind, destiny... | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
Des, take a look at Husserl's work on time consciousness. Interesting parallels. Griff: do you buy Viz from the 'Union shop, then? | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.74.96.200 |
Selves as elves? Hmm. But don't forget, Des, gnome man is an island, independent of . . . | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Perhaps I'm pixie-lated. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.17.91.5 |
Gary: Touch of StudentGrant there.  | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
Haven't you got any homework to do? | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.17.91.5 |
I went to Russell Group University, Fry. Not a polyversi, a bugger it life's too short. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
And don't we all know it. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.143.186.238 |
Actually, having slept on this, I take exception to this kind of pompous, patronising comment. I was just joking with you above, and again you turn it into a debate about your education. In fact you turn every debate into that. Tiresome. Adolescent. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231 |
Des - I just had an idea to write my life story as a series of short stories with bits of fiction interwoven. In each story yes, I might possibly be a different character. You watch Rechenbach Falls last night, the thing about Ian Rankin? Not that well done but interesting. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231 |
Um, has there been a row there? Where?  | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
I enjoy Gary's work and think he's a talented author and very bright chap. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Des - I just had an idea to write my life story as a series of short stories with bits of fiction interwoven. In each story yes, I might possibly be a different character Great idea. Have you read any Proust or Pessoa, both of whom tried something similar. And, of course, my own work.... :-) | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.250.105 |
I think the problem is that we do imagine these "selves" inside our head, secretly pulling levers and doing mischevious things and even existing at all: we crystallize imaginations of our past selves, when we should be neutralizing them. A story of a man who induces a lucid comia, and goes into his subconscious to serially kill off all the evil self/elves that have been running around loose, when he realizes... one of them is coming after him.... | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Or that one of them really is him! | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
Griff, you puzzle me. >>>I went to Russell Group University, Fry. Not a polyversi, Was that intended to be playful? If so, I apologise for my response. But you do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about issues of education. You go on about it all the time. Okay, so I went to Huddersfield, you to Bristol or whatever - what does it matter? | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231 |
Strange. I saw most of the above posts as innocuous fun last night but now they all seem slightly antagonistic. How the lens becomes distorted with just a few added comments! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
Different days, different selves | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231 |
I like you, new person Des. You seem like Gandalf; comfy and laid back and wise. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.161.241.208 |
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| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.12.197 |
Des - or that one of them is a better "him" than "he" is! And he must save him... from another him, that wants to rule the big Him when the "innoculation" is completed.... But he's aided by a her who is a fictive image of her whom big-He is in love with - who doesn't love Him but the him whom He is capable of being, which is small-he whom other-small-he wants to save so big-He can love big-Her -- Eh, it's too complicated. More fun to just antagonize Tony. Tony, you dunderhead!  | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231 |
Tell me something I don't know... | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
What's the weather like in LA, Craig? | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.52.195 |
Never mind about the bloody weather Griff come 'ere..! ("SPLAT!") Now stop taking the piss outta people! gcw  | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
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| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
"Was that intended to be playful? If so, I apologise for my response. But you do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about issues of education. You go on about it all the time. Okay, so I went to Huddersfield, you to Bristol or whatever - what does it matter?" You're an ace chap and no malice was intended. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
OK. Sorry for my reaction. Internet - tone of voice, etc. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 67.116.103.246 |
It's HOT, you !@#@! piece of... [INSERT VIOLENT MAMMOCKING] | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Craig: Des - or that one of them is a better "him" than "he" is! I sense that there is a core self that has ultimate moral control over its sattelite elves.} | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
And one that can spell better! | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
I wrote a novella about that very issue: it's in Poe's Progeny, if you're interested. About how modernity - with its global communication networks, etc - fragments the self, and what holds it together. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
It's a modern version of Jekyll and Hyde, too. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
>>>core self that has ultimate moral control And about what happens when the moral control is lost. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.163.170.232 |
Hopefully, in that case, Gary, a satellite elf will have a miltary coup and become Core Self and reconstruct the the base integrity, | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.231.98 |
All of these ideas, of course - in this kind of context - swirl in and around two recent, pretty good movies each: ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND, and IDENTITY. Drama (dramedy?) and horror, respectively. But a wacky comedy of same, could be dizzingly fun.... |