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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   

OK here's a fun question for you all:

What Ramsey story (short or novel) would you like to see turned into a film, and which director (living or dead) would you like to see direct it?

For me, it would have to be "Needing Ghosts" directed by David Lynch, or - even better - directed by Jan Svankmajer as one of his clay animation films. That would be brilliant!

So, how about you ...?
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 07:58 pm:   

Oh, and if you'd like to say which actor(s) you'd like to see in it, please go ahead and tell us.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:04 pm:   

From what I've seen lately, The Overnight directed by Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza could be good.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:05 pm:   

The Ramsey novel I'd most like to see filmed is Incarnate, though not sure who could do it justice.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:06 pm:   

Roman Polanski maybe.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:28 pm:   

"Needing Ghosts" directed by David Lynch sounds just about perfect to me.

Here's one out of left-field: "The Nameless", directed (as a period piece) by Shane Meadows.

Incidentally, Gary, Jaume Balauero directed the excellent "Los Sin Nombre" (the Spanish adaptation of "The Nameless"). I believe it was his first feature.
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   

I wouldn't mind seeing 80s-era David Cronenberg's take on Incarnate!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   

Zed, I know I'm an idiot and all, but I did know that. :-)

I is a class act when it comes to knowing my films. I can skilfully combine director and author with enviable aplomb.

And so, my definitive pairing: The Last Voice They Hear directed by Chris Columbus with Robin Williams as the baddie. He's good at voices.
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Pete_a (Pete_a)
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Registered: 07-2011
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   

I agree that Lynch is one of the few living directors capable of finding a visual analogue for Ramsey's mastery of the 'invasive subtextual' approach to terror. He can fill a frame with nothing but quotidian details and still have you -- or me at least -- shitting yourself. (His mastery of sound design plays a big part too, of course).

I'd also have a perverse desire to see Ken Loach's "The Doll who Ate his Mother" or Mike Leigh's "Count of Eleven". Could be disastrous, I know...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   

What, Brenda Blethyn as Jack Orchard's missus? "Oh, Jack [sob, sob], you've haven't burned another's [blub, blub] face off with your blowtorch? [wipes tears from face]"
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 81.158.78.71
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:37 pm:   

70s-era Argento: almost everything, really, but I'd especially like to see Ancient Images or The Influence.

Darren Aronofsky: The Grin of the Dark

Lars von Trier: "The Other Woman" (from Scared Stiff)

But I can't decide who I'd like to see do The Seven Days of Cain. Possibly Brad Anderson or Christopher Nolan.
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Darren O. Godfrey (Darren_o_godfrey)
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 11:41 pm:   

Obsession, directed by Brad Anderson.

The Count of Eleven, directed by Terry Gilliam.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 06:48 am:   

I'd like to see a TALES FROM THE CRYPT/CREEPSHOW-esque anthology film, selecting a number of stories, maybe different directors for each one.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 10:59 am:   

"The Cellars" by an early Aronofsky (think PI)

"The Pattern" by Takashi Shimizu

Incarnate by Hiyoshi Kurosawa (think KAIRO)

"The Inhabitant of the Lake" by Antonioni (think BLOW UP, particularly the park)
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 03:24 pm:   

>>I'd like to see a TALES FROM THE CRYPT/CREEPSHOW-esque anthology film, selecting a number of stories, maybe different directors for each one.<<

Ooo, yes, I'd second that, Craig!

How about "Ancient Images" directed by Robin Hardy ("The Wicker Man") with Christopher Lee (when he was in his prime) playing Lord Redfield?
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 06:57 pm:   

I thought of Hideo Nakata for The Seven Days of Cain too.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:50 pm:   

Been thinking about this today and, linking films to era, this is what should have happened:

'The Doll Who Ate His Mother' (1976) directed by Dario Argento in classic "whodunnit" giallo style with Goblin soundtrack.

'The Face That Must Die' (1979) directed by Pete Walker accentuating the sleaze, bigotry and bloody violence of the underbelly of 70s Britain.

'To Wake The Dead' aka 'The Parasite' (1980) directed by David Cronenberg in full body horror/descent into madness mode ala ‘The Brood’ or ‘Videodrome’.

'The Nameless' (1981) directed by Roman Polanski as intricate paranoid chiller in the style of ‘Rosemary’s Baby’ or ‘The Tenant’.

'The Claw' (1983) directed by Lucio Fulci with lashings of gore and maniacal overacting in the style of his early 80s classics.

'Incarnate' (1983) directed by Stanley Kubrick with the hypnotically paced chilly precision he brought to the nightmare visuals of ‘The Shining’.

'Obsession' (1985) directed by Neil Jordan as intimate character drama of divided loyalties and betrayal, with underplayed hints of the supernatural.

'The Hungry Moon' (1986) directed by Tim Burton as his stunningly madcap debut full of off-the wall effects, bizarre production design and manic overacting.

'The Influence' (1988) directed by Bernard Rose as a dark fantasy children's nightmare in the style of his masterful debut 'Paperhouse'.

'Ancient Images' (1989) directed by John Carpenter as a brilliantly paced suspense horror thriller with his trademark shock techniques to the fore ala 'Prince Of Darkness' or 'In The Mouth Of Madness'.

'Midnight Sun' (1990) directed by Terry Gilliam as a beautifully shot and subtly disturbing fairy-tale like weird fantasy epic.

'Needing Ghosts' (1990) directed by David Lynch in the style of ‘Eraserhead’ is the only way the book could be done justice, as I've said before.

'The Count of Eleven' (1991) directed by Jonathan Demme with the same perfectly crafted expertise and touches of black humour he brought to ‘The Silence Of The Lambs’.

'The Long Lost' (1993) directed by Mike Leigh as multi-strand and painfully intimate character drama of dark secrets and shocking temptations in a tight knit suburban community, with the supernatural only hinted at.

'The One Safe Place' (1995) directed by Ken Loach in his trademark visceral style with an amateur cast plucked from the streets giving frighteningly naturalistic performances.

'The House On Nazareth Hill' (1996) directed by Guillermo Del Toro as one of his beautifully crafted and heartfelt adult horror projects, in the style of 'The Devil's Backbone' would be nice.

'The Last Voice They Hear' (1998) directed by David Fincher as a blindingly disturbing serial killer thriller marrying the brooding gothic technique of ‘Seven’ to the forensic detail and character development of ‘Zodiac’.

'Silent Children' (2000) directed by Atom Egoyan as a mesmerising character piece that takes us deep inside the mind of a twisted child killer while leaving the horror of what he does to our imaginations.

And that's as far as I've read for now...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 194.66.23.11
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:55 pm:   

Am I the only person here who really doesn't like silence of the Lambs and thinks that Hopkins is complete rubbish as Lector?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 06:33 pm:   

Probably.

I think the film's rather brilliant. Hopkins is very good, but in a panto-villain kind of way (he delivers the OTT dialogue brilliantly). Brian Cox is much more subtle as the character in Manhunter.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 06:40 pm:   

I just can't take Hopkins seriously in the part because he is so panto villain lick the carpets type of madman. He's supposed to have once been a successful psychiatrist who evaded the police for for years while killing and eating people. His performance is just totally unbelievable and that weakens the entire film.

Brian Cox was brilliant. You could feel he was dangerous but you could still believe that people would have wanted to come to him to talk about their problems...
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted From: 81.158.78.71
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 06:43 pm:   

I'm in agreeing-with-Zed mode today. I think Silence of the Lambs is as perfect as films get, with two iconic central performances. Hopkins has certainly put in his share of rubbish performances, but his Lecter isn't one of them.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 06:48 pm:   

It is
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 11:08 pm:   

Weber - have you read the books? Lektor is a total panto villian in those, too. I prefer Cox's nuanced turn, but Hopkins nailed his own version of the character perfectly.

"What does he do, this man you seek?"

Shudder...
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John Forth (John)
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Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 11:29 pm:   

Not a specific story, but I'd like to see Nic Roeg 'tackle' some of the tales in Scared Stiff.
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
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Registered: 03-2008
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 02:18 am:   

I think "Silence" is good, but not great, though Hopkins is wonderful. Pretty much the whole show, really.

As for a Ramsey novel for le cinema, I'd pick one I haven't read (can't find a copy)but sounds like an utterly delicious idea for a black comedy: "The Count of Eleven" with Ricky Gervais as the hapless hero. Director: someone who's good with comedy.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 03:27 am:   

You can only fully appreciate Hopkins by seeing his jaw-dropping-ly stunning role as Othello in the BBC production from the early 80's. Even if you're not into Shakespeare, you will be mesmerized by him: Hopkins doing Othello here is not to be missed in this lifetime.....
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 81.158.78.71
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 07:47 am:   

Or as Mr Stevens in The Remains of the Day. The film is a very good adaptation of an absolutely stunning novel, so it will always be inferior to its source material, but it's as good as any adaptation could realistically be. Both Hopkins and Emma Thompson are heartbreaking.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 81.158.78.71
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 07:49 am:   

But back on topic...

What about a Charlie Kaufman adaptation (ha ha) of one of the quirkier short stories, something that would lend itself to the "metafiction" approach?

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