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Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21
| Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 08:36 pm: | |
Which movies by non-genre directors stand-out as worthy additions to the established canon of films by genre directors? (Yes, it's another pointless list kind of endeavour thing). My choices to kick things off would be: Charles Laughton - Night of the Hunter (yes, that's a bit of a cheat...) Nosferatu - F.W. Murnau. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77
| Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 09:00 pm: | |
Here are some: Vampyr Carl Theodore Dryer Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia Sam Peckinpah Taxi Driver Martin Scorsese After Hours Martin Scorsese The Beguiled Don Siegel The Haunting Robert Wise The Innocents Jack Clayton There are loads, actually... |
John Forth (John)
Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217
| Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 09:21 pm: | |
There are loads, actually... ... including a few of the classics. William Friedkin's horror output is minimal, yet he gave us The Exorcist. And while Nic Roeg's films are generally quite disturbing, I'd only really class Don't Look Now as a pure horror film. I can see some of the films you have as 'horror' giving rise to some debate there, Zed. Not by me, mind you. After Hours is one of the best nightmare movies of the eighties. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77
| Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 10:16 pm: | |
I can see some of the films you have as 'horror' giving rise to some debate there, Zed. Aye. But to me they're horror films. My definition of the genre is as broad as Bella Emberg's rear end. |
Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
Username: Nebuly
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 142.179.0.196
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 01:32 am: | |
Theatre of Blood Douglas Hickox Dead of Night Cavalcanti, Robert Hamer, Charles Crichton, Basil Dearden The Changeling (1980) Peter Medak |
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 89.19.81.238
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 01:41 am: | |
Everyone's drunk here, too. What's going on? |
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 89.19.81.238
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 02:09 am: | |
1. John Grisham 2. Ray Bradbury 3. Candace Bushnell 4. Stephen King 5. John Grisham What are we doing? |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 02:17 am: | |
Wouldn't some of the greatest horror movies of all time be directed by non-genre directors? THE SHINING, Stanley Kubrick. ROSEMARY'S BABY, Roman Polanski. PSYCHO, Alfred Hitchcock (non-horror-genre specifically for him, though of course he did a lot of genre directing; the only other horror he really did was THE BIRDS) POSSESSION, Andrzej Zulawski NOSFERATU, F.W. Murnau Yes, THE EXORCIST, by FriedkIn JAWS, Steven Spielberg IMAGES, Robert Altman (not one of the greatests, no, but great nevertheless) |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 09:59 am: | |
That's what I meant, Craig, though I prefer Proto's apparently arbitrary list (: |
Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 94.69.91.91
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 04:15 pm: | |
Vargtimmen, Bergman The Thing, Hawks Kwaidan, Kobayashi |
Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 04:30 pm: | |
Craig, I'll admit that Hitch wasn't normally a horror director - but you missed Frenzy off the horror films he did direct - which makes 3 horror films in his canon. Can I throw Funny Games into the mix here.. Haneke |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 04:54 pm: | |
I'd include; 'The Lodger', 'Rebecca', 'Shadow Of A Doubt', 'Spellbound', 'Rope', 'Stage Fright', 'Strangers On A Train', 'Rear Window', 'Vertigo' & 'Marnie', as well as all those memorably macabre episodes of 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' that he directed, as, at very least, borderline horror films. |
Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 04:57 pm: | |
Nah, they're all pretty straight thrillers. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 05:01 pm: | |
Sorry - none of those both of you named are horror films. THE LODGER might be close, because it dealt with Jack the Ripper, right? An unknown, unfathomable killer (or event: THE BIRDS) is the thing of horror: Norman Bates murders for no real explicitly explicable or rational (e.g., personal gain) reason, dresses up like his dead mom, who he keeps in the basement... them's horror. The others, are noir and crime dramas and mysteries and thrillers and whatnot. |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 05:02 pm: | |
I'd also say Roman Polanski has made enough horror films not to be included here: 'Repulsion', 'The Fearless Vampire Killers', 'Rosemary's Baby', 'Macbeth', 'The Tenant' & 'The Ninth Gate'. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 05:03 pm: | |
And how could we all forget ALIEN, by Ridley Scott? |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 05:07 pm: | |
I find each one of them suffused with enough of the truly macabre and the downright chilling, as opposed to straight thriller tactics, to show the man's mastery of the horror genre. I believe Dario Argento & Brian De Palma would agree. |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 05:12 pm: | |
The definitive examples are; 'The Exorcist', 'The Shining' & 'Don't Look Now' - all in my Top 10. |
Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.204.111.205
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 10:44 pm: | |
David Fincher. |
Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.204.111.205
| Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 10:45 pm: | |
David Lynch. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 02:59 am: | |
Jacques Tourneur, I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 220.138.166.31
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 06:25 am: | |
Well, Tourneur did direct another horror classic - Night of the Demon. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 08:38 am: | |
So that makes two of his many films and TV shows, Huw - well, three if you throw in CAT PEOPLE - four if you throw in THE LEOPARD MAN - er - maybe I should take him off the list after all.... |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.4.19.77
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 05:31 pm: | |
Robert Wise doesn't belong here either. Apart from 'The Haunting' he also directed 'Curse Of The Cat People', 'The Body Snatcher', 'A Game Of Death' & 'Audrey Rose'. As well as these other genre classics; 'The Day The Earth Stood Still', 'The Andromeda Strain' & 'Star Trek : The Motion Picture' (perversely underrated, imo). |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 06:23 pm: | |
I'd argue that he does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wise#Filmography He's better known by the mainstream as the direcor of The Sound of Music than the handful of excellent genre films he made. |
Karim (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.196.50.241
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 12:16 pm: | |
Gore Verbinsky- though you would hardly think otherwise with a name like that |
John Forth (John)
Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 02:01 pm: | |
ANGEL HEART by Alan Parker (his most commonly known films include Bugsy Malone, The Commitments, Fame and the - arguably more terrifying - Midnight Express)? |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 178.118.77.195
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 04:19 pm: | |
Non-horror films with horror elements: Full Metal Jacket: the scene where Private Pyle shoots the drill instructor and then commits suicide Apocalypse Now: the scene where the patrol boat first enters Kurtz country - the burning effigies on the shore etc. I've always found this extremely powerful. LA Confidential: where Vincennes is inadvertently shot by the police chief Other examples? |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 05:34 pm: | |
Well the most famous of all horror elements erupting in a non-horror film, has to be RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. (After which, such a thing became a convention in that series.) |