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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   

I know little about the chap, but I'm glad of the verdict, particularly as a vindication of the other people involved in the event and for exposing the grubby practices of far too many newspapers.
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

Are you the living proof that spanking and fascism aren't inextricably linked?



As the papers seemed to be saying?
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:25 pm:   

Who says I'm living?
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:27 pm:   

That's the spirit.

Is there pain in heaven?

Do people inflict vast amounts of pleasure on each other to damage them? Icarus style?

Do they have pleasure wars?
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.149.134.59
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   

A number of non sequiturs and distortions characterise the tabloid coverage of this matter. They allege that Moseley is a fascist who mocks Holocaust victims – almost certainly untrue – but they won't say that Nick Griffin and other BNP spokesmen are fascists who mock Holocaust victims even when the evidence is blatant and unambiguous.

They'll accuse non-fascists of being Nazis but not accuse fascists of being Nazis. It's like hiring Rentokill to attack Micky Mouse while leaving the rats untouched.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.149.134.59
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   

Sorry, my spelling's all over the place. Tired.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.156.43.97
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   

I agree.

What Moseley wants to do in the bedroom is entirely his affair.

BDSM...I mean...Does anyone find this shocking or newsworthy in this day & age?

Lets be honest, if his name wasn't MOSELEY then it would not have been reported.

Even supposing he did dress up in an SS uniform and goosestep around the bedroom then it's entirely his affair.

It strikes me as more 'Allo Allo' than 'Seig Heil.'


gcw
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.242.126
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   

Joel - sex sells newspapers. If Nick Griffin fucked a few prostitutes whilst dressed as a black and white minstrel, maybe the media (ie. the coke-sniffing, booze-fuelled, whore-shagging London journos) might cover it in the same way they've covered the Moseley thing.

The whole thing smacks of hypocricy and double standards - thank Christ the man won the case.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.242.126
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   

Is it obvious enough that I hate these red top rags? :-)
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.32.69.29
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:26 pm:   

It's good news for those of us on the fringe, but it's a shame the "exemplary damages" weren't awarded. £60k + court costs won't put much of a dent in the pocketbook of Ooze of the World. They ruined more than one person's life with this sleazy smear campaign: dear friends of mine got caught in the crossfire and one of them is now jobless. Why? So people can gasp and giggle over a private matter that was none of their business and which they should never have seen.

Sorry to be bitter. Yeah, it's a banner day for privacy, but not without a hefty price.
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:35 am:   

As an agoraphobic exhibitionist, can I just express my disappointment that secret paparazzi are not likely to be hiding in my bathroom anymore.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   

Niki's posting deserved a more serious response, I think. Her friends have all my sympathy, as they know.

The full judgment in the Mosley case is here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/24_07_08mosleyvnewsgroup.pdf
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   

That's harsh, Niki - your friends lives being ruined, I mean. Hopefully they can pull things back together.

"Why? So people can gasp and giggle over a private matter that was none of their business and which they should never have seen."

Unfortunatelky our entire popular culture is based on exactly that notion - red top newspapers, gossip magazines, reality TV. It's pathetic. Makes me ashamed to be human.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.32.69.29
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 02:44 pm:   

Thanks, guys. And even though Justice Eady says it's not a "landmark" decision, I think it still sends a powerful message to other tabloid rags. If so, then everyone's suffering will at least not have been in vain.

Incidentally, "Woman E's" version of events is pretty interesting too. I have absolutely no sympathy for her for the hurt she's caused us all with her betrayal, but at least she regrets what she did:

Sex, Uniforms, Max Mosley and Me.

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