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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.21.87
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 03:26 pm: | |
I have. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nightbreed/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=syste m&utm_campaign=Send%2Bto%2BFriend |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.25.43.252
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 03:50 pm: | |
Me, too! |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.18.174.156
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 04:48 pm: | |
The film as released was a frustrating almost classic that ultimately couldn't compete with the original 'Hellraiser' movie. It was obvious an awful lot of great work had gone into the film but this somehow hadn't translated to the screen - except in flashes. Here's hoping a fully restored director's cut version will allow us to enjoy 'Nightbreed' as the visionary dark fantasy epic it was intended to be. Count me in... |
John Forth (John)
Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 04:59 pm: | |
Done. I'd love to see what Barker originally intended. |
David_m (David_m) Username: David_m
Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 95.147.193.251
| Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 02:04 pm: | |
Signed and Tweeted. Would love to see this and Barker's planned second and third novellas in the series. |
Matthew Fryer (Matthew_fryer) Username: Matthew_fryer
Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 90.195.182.50
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 10:07 am: | |
Signed. I'm not holding my breath, as there's been speculation about this for years, but at last it sounds like something's actually happening. |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 11:24 am: | |
I didn't know he had planned to continue the 'Cabal' storyline! It does end with the whole world open to them but I think, in this instance, the ambiguity of that ending works fine and we are best left to ponder the eventual fate of the surviving characters ourselves. The book is a perfectly formed little allegory of life's outcasts banding together for company and mutual support, as is, imo. What I would dearly love to see is him complete 'The Book Of The Art' trilogy! The first two works stand second only to 'Imajica' as his finest feat of imagination... and they're directly linked to the 'Books Of Blood' universe. So maybe, if he completed it, 'Imajica' could still be bettered?! A humbling thought. |
Mbfg (Mbfg) Username: Mbfg
Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 212.219.63.204
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 12:57 pm: | |
"Cabal", still my favourite. Please don't write a sequel Clive, it works as it is. |
David_m (David_m) Username: David_m
Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 95.147.193.251
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 07:54 pm: | |
Stevie, here are Clive's comments on the subject: http://www.clivebarker.info/bookswip.html#cabalsequels |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.18.174.156
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 10:18 pm: | |
Thanks for that, David. Reading through Clive's ambitious and, perhaps, somewhat naive proclamations at the time I can't help feeling that, despite his undoubted enthusiasm for the projects, all of his creative energies ended up going into his masterpiece, 'Imajica' (1991), which exists as an epic and complete single volume work of striking perfection. Proof positive that those works which are unplanned and just happen spontaneously (like nights out on the piss) always tend to be the most memorable! |
John Forth (John)
Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217
| Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 11:06 pm: | |
But Stevie, didn't EVERVILLE come out after IMAJICA? Suggests he still had the urge to tell that story even after Imajica. Rather it seems he ended up pouring all of his creative energies into the ABARAT sequence, to the exclusion of the series he'd already started. Selfish as it is, I wish he'd made a different choice there - I don't know a single person who bothered with Abarat at all... |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.18.174.156
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:23 am: | |
I was talking about when he was at his creative peak in the late 80s & early 90s. 'Everville' (1994) was written right after 'Imajica' and, if I recall correctly, Clive said it was the most difficult book he ever had to write. It was excellent, even bettering 'The Great And Secret Show' (1989), imo, but after that he seemed to lose interest in the two trilogies he had previously signed up for and been so enthusiastic about. The 'Abarat' books didn't come along until the 2000s and were specifically written for children. Kind of his attempt at a 'Chronicles Of Narnia' for the new millennium - I reckon anyway. |
John Forth (John)
Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 07:14 pm: | |
I didn't enjoy EVERVILLE as much as I did THE GREAT AND SECRET SHOW. Thought it suffered from the common "middle part of a trilogy" problem of not being as satisfying a story in and of itself. Also committed a couple of sequel cardinal sins - e.g. the resurrection of very definitely dead characters, the underwhelming deaths of a couple of the protagonists. Of course, I reserve the right to reconsider that statement if/when he finishes the trilogy and we get a chance to see how it fits in. ABARAT may not have come along until a bit later, but it certainly put a halt on Barker's "adult" career. It's 11 years since COLDHEART CANYON, and MISTER B GONE was not a good piece of work. I wonder if it's been worth it, given that he's had to change his adult publisher and christ knows if THE SCARLET GOSPELS will ever come out! |
Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.18.174.156
| Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 09:01 pm: | |
You have a point there about Clive seeming to have abandoned adult fiction over the last decade, although, I seem to find myself alone in having thoroughly enjoyed 'Mister B. Gone' as the pitch black comedy spoof of 'The Divine Comedy' I believe it was intended as. Maybe he just felt he had exhausted the limits of graphic horror and needed a break for his own sanity? C.S. Lewis went through a similar process, escaping into children's literature, following the unremittingly bleak Old Testament imagery of his 'Space Trilogy' & 'The Screwtape Letters' (seriously) and the same happened John Christopher on completing his four harrowing apocalypse novels, that still haven't been matched for their emotional impact and sheer savagery, and that so drained him he felt compelled to start writing for children afterward with the 'Tripods' series, etc. I'm sure there must be other examples. It's interesting to speculate what toll may be taken on an author's peace of mind when they become famous for youthful shock tactics that they find they no longer have the stomach for in mellowed out later life... I'm speculating here and only Clive Barker can prove he still has the fire in his belly to write serious adult horror again. |