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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.108.176
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 01:08 pm:   

With the help of a roll of gaffer tape, an old cardboard box and a sharp knife, I have just successfully converted my living room coffee table into an excecutioner's block.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.108.176
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 06:12 pm:   

I was sorting out all my tshirts into some kind of order but I've come to a dead stop - i just don't know whether to put my Pink Floyd the wall tshirts into the film tshirts pile or the music shirts pile...
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.24.62.55
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 06:17 pm:   

Music! The album is one of the greatest ever recorded. The film was an interesting brave attempt but pales beside it, IMO.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.108.176
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 07:34 pm:   

But the imagery on the tshirts is from the film...
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.24.62.55
Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 07:56 pm:   

But Scarfe's artwork was also on the iconic album sleeve. Unless it's actual shots from the film.

Christ, the nonsense we debate on here!
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.237.187.186
Posted on Monday, May 27, 2013 - 08:53 pm:   

A possible solution ... put it in the 'Scarfe' pile.

(btw are you still going to see Joe Hill in Manchester on Thursday, Weber? I must email you about it. I don't think I gave you my number, did I?)
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.239.242.204
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 12:23 am:   

Yes I am. My American first edition arrived a couple of days ago.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.237.187.186
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 01:11 am:   

Great. I'll check out the train times to see when I'm likely to be arriving and then email you. I *hope* to be there. Having a bit of a flare-up of health problems at the moment so I won't be entirely sure until I see how I feel on the day. Best watch out for a little old lady who's limping on both legs! (sort of a "pained waddle")
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.64
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 12:57 pm:   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARXKvVeVtXg

A track that only appears in the film and the best animation in the entire film IMHO
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 04:02 pm:   

Comparing the album, 'The Wall', as a brilliant piece of music, to any specific production of it that came afterward is like comparing the original epoch defining performance of Stravinsky's 'The Rite Of Spring' to any subsequent interpretation. It will always be a great work but the original will forever shine greatest in the heavens.

Alan Parker's film was a frequently brilliant interpretation of Roger Waters' imagery but was also made redundant by the listener's already strongly visual connection to the work of three years earlier. Also I thought it was a mistake to cast another musician, rather than a newcomer or an already established actor, in the lead role. Bob Geldof may be a great human being and an Irishman but he can't act for toffee.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.108.146
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 09:47 pm:   

Actually - I think the definitive version of the Wall is "Is there anybody out there" - a two disk edition of the 1982 Earls Court concerts. Totally mindblowing. The sound quality is absolutely perfect and the track list includes the songs that are in the film but not the original album.

The film is the single most watched thing in my collection. It's certainly not redundant as it adds so much into the mix.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 11:26 am:   

I have it too, Weber, and it is a fabulous recording! But the original 1979 studio version is still definitive, imo.

Haven't watched the film in many years but I listen to 'The Wall' roughly a couple of times a year, the whole way through, with beers and no interruptions, as a special treat.

A few years ago I was staying in on my own on New Year's Eve and had a concept album battle of the bands all night long that had me in raptures. 'Tommy' followed by 'Dark Side Of The Moon' followed by 'Quadrophenia' and then 'The Wall' to ring the New Year in. It was one of the best nights I ever spent! Try it some time. The joy was all in the increasingly drunk anticipation of what was coming up next and by the time I reached Waters' epic masterpiece I felt high as a kite and was singing every line at the top of my voice. Wonderful!!
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 01:14 pm:   

'The Wall' I thought had been justly buried by history. Unwatchable, unlistenable. Pompous, turgid grammar-schoolboy fodder. 'Wish You Were Here' is better, but in general Roger Waters is the dullest man in the world.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.18.173
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 01:33 pm:   

You've prompted me to try The Wall on our new sound system, Stevie!
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 213.106.77.123
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 01:43 pm:   

This is one of those rare occasions when I'm in total disagreement with Joel, I'm afraid. :-) The Wall blew me away when I saw it in my teens and it's still devastatingly powerful. I think I may be ordering a new DVD before too much longer...
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 212.123.8.28
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 01:49 pm:   

I didn't know you were a Floyd fan, Ramsey! That said, The Wall is my least favourite album. I much prefer Wish You Were Here and Animals. Dark Side of the Moon I've heard so many times it's no longer fun. But I still dig the sound of the earlier albums, such as A Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother and Obscured by Clouds.

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