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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.214.6
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 11:50 pm:   

Is the name of a film season down here in Bristol that promises to look at 'fashion & violence in cinema'. First off is on the big screen is 'The Bird with Crystal Plumage' but the one I'm looking forward to is the 1965 Italian SF film 'The Tenth Victim' with Marcello Mastroianni as I've never seen it. Has anyone?
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.154.242.64
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 11:56 pm:   

Never seen it, but interestingly, it's written by Robert Sheckley.
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Huw (Huw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.185.79
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 12:28 am:   

I haven't seen that one, John. I wonder if they'll show THE EYES OF LAURA MARS. Anyone remember that one?
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.154.242.64
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 12:49 am:   

Huw - yep, I saw LAURA MARS at the cinema on its release, in Leicester Square. Not seen it since, however.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.199.0.70
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 11:07 am:   

I remember LAURA MARS - written by John Carpenter & directed by Irvin Kirshner. I asked about TENTH VICTIM because all I've ever seen of it is a still in Philip Strick's Science Fiction Movies book from Octopus when I was a youngster.

Other films in the season are PLEIN SOLEIL (1960 French version of Talented Mr Ripley by Rene Clement) and THE RAT (1925 with Ivor Novello), that has 'style written right through it from the way she dangles pearls before his face to the way he slits her skirt with a flick knife). Might be worth a look.

They're also showing PUNISHMENT PARK later this month, which is another obscure SF movie I've never seen
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.229.9
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 03:38 pm:   

I've never read Highsmith's The Talented Mr. Ripley itself, but I've seen both these movies. The Matt Damon movie is wonderful. But I get the impression that PLEIN SOLEIL is closer to the novel in its climax... except for, the coda, or VERY very end... which I feel is tacked on. The more recent movie is bleaker, the earlier one more cynical, if that's possible?... cynical, but ultimately censored....

Well, I'm just going round and round here: without reading the novel, I'm no more than a spouting idiot. Does anyone know how the novel actually ends?
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.108.36.76
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 08:25 pm:   

The text stops part way down the page, at the end of a final paragraph, and the next page is blank. Unless it's published by [that's enough – libel ed.]
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.5.72
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 01:28 am:   

Joel, Joel, Joel... will your wry antics never cease?...
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.237.56
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 11:11 am:   

I prefer PLEIN SOLEIL, but then I'm a rabid Alain Delon fan Indeed, I wonder how well Delon is known to the film buffs on this board?
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.146.237
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   

He was the father of Nico's son Ari, but never acknowledged him as such. OK, that's strictly a music nerd response rather than a film buff response.

Craig, you misspelt 'rye' above.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   

Pretty well to me, Hubert. He was very good in several Melville films as well as Losey's Mr Klein and of course L'Eclisse.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.199.0.149
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   

And of course Delon wil be well known to anyone who stayed up watching late night TV in the 70s as his films were sometimes all that seemed to be on!

The Delon movie that sticks in my mind from being small is (surprise) Alain Jessua's TRAITMENT DE CHOC with Annie Giradot. Anyone else familiar with this modern take on health spa vampirism?
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.237.56
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   

"The Delon movie that sticks in my mind from being small is (surprise) Alain Jessua's TRAITMENT DE CHOC with Annie Giradot. Anyone else familiar with this modern take on health spa vampirism?"

I am. Great film, probably Delon's sole excursion into outright horror, although not a few Delon films contain horror elements. I didn't know he was popular in the UK!
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.237.56
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 08:34 pm:   

I forget LES SEINS DE GLACE, with Mireille d'Arc, based on a Matheson short story.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 04:57 pm:   

"The Delon movie that sticks in my mind from being small is (surprise) Alain Jessua's TRAITMENT DE CHOC with Annie Giradot. Anyone else familiar with this modern take on health spa vampirism?"

God, I remember that one - late night 1970s British TV indeed! It must've been on BBC2 when I was still in my early teens. I remember it being coldly creepy.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.253.174.81
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   

I remember catching it and thinking goodnesss me there's an unusually high amount of nudity in this for a 1973 film, then Oh No! - someone opens a fridge door and this young bloke's gutted corpse is hanging there.

Bleak ending as well.

PS I think Zed & I must have been watching TV at the same time for most of the seventies
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   

Well, I'm just going round and round here: without reading the novel, I'm no more than a spouting idiot. Does anyone know how the novel actually ends?

Highsmith's talented Mr ripley is possibly the greatest depiction of a psychopath on the printed page. For me no other book has come close. You know him so well through the course of the book and when he snaps and kills someone you understand exactly why he did it and sympathise with him. The homosexuality remains sub-text in the book, the jack davenport character is a completely new addition in the matt damon film which for me spoilt it.

The book ends with him getting away with it, as you'd expect with 4 sequels. Strangely enough, the best Ripley books are the odd numbered ones - Ripley's Game and Ripley under water (3 and 5)are the only sequels which come close to matching the original. In number 2 (Ripley Under Ground) he seems to be only half as intelligent as he was in the original and his cover ups just don't stand up to any scrutiny. Number 4 (Boy who followed Ripley) is unmemorable despite having one of the better titles.

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