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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 10:51 am:   

Can anyone see these?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=790073298032369&id=100865096953196

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=790061731366859&id=100865096953196

I find this stuff so moving.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 11:06 am:   

Proto, you will love the comments under the dvd one.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:05 pm:   

I'm mostly fascinated by the presenter. It's Alan Partridge in The Day Today, with his mock-Tudor house and horse brasses and his huge desktop computer set up in his kitchen.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:11 pm:   

What got me was that I was about to post there that my first dvd was Chicken Run, but saw that the first post was the exact same thing.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:15 pm:   

My first VHS: Blade Runner (which I hadn't seen). It cost 17 in the late '80s. First DVD and blu-ray was The Thing.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:21 pm:   

First VHS was Flash Gordon. 29.99. In a SALE. I had Blade Runner as an ex rental in one of suitcase sized padded covers. I loved it. All my videos got stolen in a burglary in the mid nineties. Awful at the time but hilarious to think of now.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:22 pm:   

I can't remember my first blue ray... :/
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:55 pm:   

Wow. I remember seeing The Presidio (a largely-forgotten Peter Hymans film in which Sean Connery beats someone up with his thumb) for about 60-70.

My Blade Runner (fuck, I mistyped that as Bladder Runner!) is also in a giant plastic case. I still have it.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:56 pm:   

By the way, Ramsey Campbell has an interview in this month's STARBURST magazine.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 12:56 pm:   

I like that this thread is called "New Message" so I can't go off-topic.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:01 pm:   

Imagine if they stopped bringing out anything new. ANYTHING. This was *it* for the rest of time.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:06 pm:   

I think they have.

Seriously, though, I do think about that frequently! I've been saying this for ages. And we've more than enough art to explore. I'm still working my way through the 20th century.

Maybe we should eliminate everything except those 12 Fawlty Towers episodes and examine them in greater and greater detail.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:22 pm:   

This is crazy. I just emptied the rubbish with my son. 'Next door is looking like a hotel' he said. 'Fawlty towers,' I said, 'Faulty powers.' Probably as you posted that.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:24 pm:   

Okay, let's trace this back... Fawlty Towers was in my head because I just watched an interview with Mark Gatiss where he said they might leave Sherlock alone like Fawlty Towers.

Egg sandwich is in my head now. Anything?
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:24 pm:   

And yes, I thought it as I pressed send, that nothing is new. My son said "Maybe that's no bad thing."
And you know, what we were saying about shaking up snow globes? Maybe a new thread is also a metaphor for it, too.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:26 pm:   

Um! I dunno!
This is good, though.
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Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2019 - 01:47 pm:   

If we didn't have the 20th century back catalogue, yeah, stopping all art would mean a lot more. New art is a good thing, but I just don't think we find it that much in the traditional channels.

We now have films where adults attend about a wrinkly purple giant with a magic hand. (I mean Speilberg's The Post.)

It's interesting to see 20th century artists create in the soil of the 21st century. That's why I'm glad Prometheus exists. (I'm going to see Neil Jordan talk about his film GRETA this week at a Q&A. We'll see...)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - 12:28 am:   

Neil Jordan!?! Ask if he believes in ghosts. That always reveals a lot about people. That and when were you most happy.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - 03:50 pm:   

He said before in interviews that he grew up with the supernatural being very much a part of ordinary conversation, which it was a bit here in Ireland even when I grew up a couple of decades later. I doubt that he actually believes in them as a reality, but they work great as metaphors.

His first two films (ANGEL and THE COMPANY OF WOVLES) are my favourites. (I was very disappointed in THE CRYING GAME on a rewatch this year.) But then he comes back with what I think are strong films in BREAKFAST ON PLUTO and BYZANTIUM, which is always heartening to see in a director.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 10:40 am:   

Yes! I did. I got in touch with Jeannette Winterson a few years ago and asked her. She sent back the one word answer, 'Yes.'
Byzantium was quite good. Like so many films I liked the first half best.
Did you see the thriller he made with Jody Foster? I actually liked that quite a lot.
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 01:36 am:   

So I was the last person whose question was taken and I asked Neil Jordan about the ubiquity of the moving image. His answer was short - he said it's everywhere but they're mostly of poor quality. He believes the image is the essence of making a film and they need to be carefully crafted, and they belong in the cinema.
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 01:36 am:   

He said he's working on a ghost story.
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 06:59 am:   

You got to be with Neil Jordan. That's incredible. Did he say anything else that stuck in your mind?
I can't believe that about the ghost story...
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Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 07:03 am:   

I have a copy of his first book you know, from before his film career. No mention in the biog of anything but the book and the potential of this young writer's future career. The story doesn't draw me but this form in the road nature of the book is too strong for me to part with it.
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 12:17 am:   

Ah, that's really sweet about the book! The physical book itself is innocent, full of potential.

He said a few things, that many often well-reviewed independent films today have little craft.

He said that he doesn't like psychology. He said he was formerly married to a psychotherapist, but that's not the reason. He likes explanations for people's behaviour that are beyond the rational, beyond the reach of Freud.

He said he doesn't plan scripts. He wishes he could work away from a computer as the internet is too distracting.

When asked if there was s film of his he thought was overlooked he said THE BRAVE ONE. He also said IN DREAMS was loathed when it came out, but has a following now, perhaps because of Netflix.

He completely rewrote the second half of GRETA, most of which they filmed in Dublin (it's set in New York). He said the irrational drive of motherhood - the desire to have a child and cling onto it - was a very overlooked subject. He hated the trailer to GRETA; it gave away an important twist. He said they removed it at his request, tested the trailer and then re-inserted it. He said trailers today show to much and are too long.

I got to ask the last question, which I was really pleased about. His first two films have a special place in my heart and mind.
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He said that he faced huge resistance from the establishment when he started making films, the establishment being "men with big bellies", crew on the set who would say "You're going to put the camera there? Well, it's your funeral, guv'nor." He had resistance for casting Cathy Tyson in MONA LISA because she was black and Jay Davidson because he was trans.
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 01:02 am:   

The Brave One! That was the one I liked. But that and In Dreams, I remember, both felt to end a little melodramatically. But In Dreams is incredibly beautiful in places.
I agree with everything he said, I think. I love the irrational behaviour stuff - Graham Greene said the same thing, that characters SHOULD do unexpected and unpredictable things. It's believable as well as being at the heart of creativity.
Yes, Indy films are dull as dishwater all too often. It can come from too much reverence for script/dialogue.
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 01:04 am:   

So he's a Jungian?
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 01:08 am:   

BTW there's a LOT of craft in Suspiria. More than we are used to.

I have a theory that the best directors are drawn to mystery.

Hey, it occurred to me that 2001 a Space Odyssey and Close Encounters of the Third Kind are about art, the effects on mankind.
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I'd like to see IN DREAMS. That and THE BUTCHER BOY are the only two I haven't seen.

He didn't say he's a Jungian, but I suppose he could be?

Suspiria is a bit expensive on Amazon - 17 for the blu ray disc.

Expand a little on your directors theory - the good ones are drawn to mysteries or drawn to create mysteries?

Rob Ager has a brilliant suggestion about what the monolith in 2001 is the cinema screen turned sideways, hence all the rotational imagery in that film.
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 09:20 am:   

In Dreams starts amazingly. Is actually stunning, but then like a bike going thrillingly downhill goes kind of out of control.
I saw Suspiria on Amazon. 90 a year or so. :/
Mystery...I mean directors drawn to the solutions of mysteries, a SENSE of mystery, the inexplicable. It's like wonder but with a chance we might get to hold onto it, or put something right, even if the solution takes away the pleasure of the unknown. Mystery is like lucid dreaming, things not quite real. I think great artists go to these places. Maybe without knowing why, because irrationality is maybe the ultimate freedom.
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Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2019 - 09:21 am:   

I'm not sure any of that made sense even to me.
And god, you met Neil Jordan!!!!
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Maybe I'm nuts, but that made sense to me. And it ties into something Neil Jordan said in an interview: art is thinking with your feelings. Trying to understand with those /i{other} senses.

I like that you're such a fan about this! I saw him before when he was talking about BYZANTIUM. He doesn't seem to have changed much physically or personality in decades. That's a good thing in this case. He seems trustworthy, honest, very real and humble.
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Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2019 - 10:33 am:   

Those things come across in everything he does. Have you seen Micheal Collins? Is that the title? It was the first of his films I didn't fancy seeing because it was the opposite of his other films, historic, "set". But who knows? Also the "Priests on the Run" film, which looked great and had a lovely seen with a deer, but belonged in that troubled strata of films I like to call 'Robert de Niro directed by Brits' - they just don don't seem to work.
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Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2019 - 12:09 pm:   

I've seen MICHAEL COLLINS and it was okay. Perhaps the subject matter didn't appeal to me. I like Jordan when he's magic realist.

Between WE'RE NO ANGELS and HIGH SPIRITS we can say full-on comedy isn't his forte. What other films fit are in that troubled stratum? (And I hate to be that guy, but Jordan isn't British!)
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Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2019 - 12:17 pm:   

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/interview-with-the-fidgeter-26612 739.html
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Maybe I meant Britishish? You know...he's down the road!
I actually liked High Spirits! A bit rushed, but fun and with great set design.

Have you ever browsed the BBC radio Iplayer? Just tap in a name or a word ('ghosts', say) and you'll get documentaries and interviews going back decades. It's eerie. Old sound isn't the same as new sound, and the backgrounds sound different and old, people talk *differently*.
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He is! British Isles-y. (It's just been a long-standing when Irish artists are re-classified as British by the UK press once they win something.)
Great set design, yes, but yeah, it's okay.

I haven't. I've just too much to do right now, I'll never get to everything! That does sound interesting though.
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Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2019 - 04:46 pm:   

Yes, I hate that too. Maybe I could have said English speaking European.
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British and Irish works. But now I feel like some humourless git with a megaphone.
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No, I can totally understand why it would rankle. I'd have felt the same. But I do think we over here have trouble making 'Bobby' films. They feel neutered somehow.
Mind, so do a few US ones. He went down the Arnie route of doing stuff like Bad Grandpa.
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I didn't know of any UK films he made.
I saw Mean Streets last year and it was surprisingly one of Marty's very best I think, felt authentic.
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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2019 - 10:16 am:   

There's probably only Branagh's Frankenstein and that Jordan one. :/
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The Mission?
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Yeah, that's three. The Mission is probably the best of them. But he barely says anything in that.

Hmm, The Mission. David Puttnam produced. It occurs to me to wonder if Bill Cosby is partially responsible for the degraded state of Hollywood films today. I don't mean due to his own films. There was a possible turning point when David Puttnam was hired to run Columbia Pictures in the '80s. He was on an earnest mission to make true art and commerce work together.

People were crying at the the press conference where he said his goodbyes. It seemed liked the death of hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvvL-yjxe4
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Cosby took that job over? God... You know, I always felt a controlling streak in Cosby, when he was with kids in his shows. It used to unnerve me. It's not imagined.
Yes, all those De Niro films. It's like that whole run of Chevy Chase psychological Satanic sexual abuse films of the mid nineties, they never quite worked for me, either.
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No, the report implies that he used his influence on the management to get Puttnam fired.

I missed those Chevy Chase movies. Did you just do a joke, Tony?
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The weird, controlling bastard.
No, those Chevy films were a weird, misjudged experiment by him, all made during a low point when he was in and out of therapy. He has no memory of even making them.
Yes, I was.
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Posted on Monday, May 06, 2019 - 07:22 pm:   

That was so deadpan I believed you. Well played, sir!
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Freaky thing, I started believing it myself. Weird, that. Like if I talked about it anymore the films would come into being.
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Now I am scared, Proto. Really. I honestly snatched it from the air.
https://www.today.com/popculture/chevy-chase-his-childhood-abuse-wbna18337412
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I can't help really liking Chevy Chase as a performer and as a table-flipping contrarian.
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Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 08:16 am:   

Me too. I've heard he's awkward - now it makes sense why.
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Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2019 - 02:51 am:   

I can't remember in which thread we were talking about superhero films, but this seems correct to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQOFOZka4q4
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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 07:18 pm:   

Did you watch the Unbreakable movies? I think Shyamalan did a genius thing with them by avoiding EVERY superhero trope. The first is a classic movie I think, the second gets better, but the third is very good indeed. Again, I was hungry to watch it again straight after seeing it. I won't say a thing just in case you've not seen it but it was maybe my film of the year so far. Popcorn movie, anyway.
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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 07:20 pm:   

I have to say, I went into some comic shops today and it was the first time I've ever felt disconnected from it. It's a step towards art, that stuff, but can also mislead.
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Superhero movies are actually okay, that's the irony. At least some are. They're often quite intelligent. In fact, they are aware of the problems with themselves and even seem to subtly try and deflate themselves. It's either impressive or sneaky, I can't decide.
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Is it possible that the movie writer is deflating his creation because he subconsciously thinks he's part of the problem by making them?

They're okay in isolation, in their place. But that's not what's happening. They've displace, replaced, actual adult culture.
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I saw the first two Unbreakables. Liked the second more than the first. Haven't seen the last one.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 09:18 am:   

It's not just superheroes, comedy is ugly now, too. The tone of it makes me queasy.
Glass is a great film,does all kinds of unexpected things.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 09:22 am:   

Saw a film that could have been a Neil Jordan yesterday. I kill Giants. I had expected something quirky and fun my son would watch but sweet Jesus it got strong. To say too much would ruin the effect it has. In fact I'm struggling to find something to say to suggest why its so good. Anyway, very well made, and if it is a kid's film it's shockingly adult.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 10:38 am:   

'Why it's so good without damaging it'.
I think it got its ending a touch wrong, but the fact me and Bill were still talking about it today means something.
(That 'says something' always sounds banal, doesn't it?)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 10:44 am:   

'Why it's so good without damaging it'.
I think it got its ending a touch wrong, but the fact me and Bill were still talking about it today means something.
(That 'says something' always sounds banal, doesn't it?)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 10:44 am:   

Can I just say, Guardian reviews seem quite mean spirited.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 10:46 am:   

But now I'm agreeing with their points, and the film is deflating on me. Have I really no opinions of my own? :-(
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Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - 03:54 pm:   

No.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 12:59 am:   

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012x12c
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Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 01:27 am:   

I finally saw GLASS. I wasn't crazy about it. I may have got this wrong but I think at one point someone pinpoints three crimes on a map and says, as if it's a revelation - that they form a triangle.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 01:31 am:   

Did you know that they're still making RED DWARF? It's as if Steptoe and Son were still arguing in that junkyard.

I just watched some and actually really enjoyed it! Felt like the '80s again.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 11:24 pm:   

Oh, I loved Glass! But so many of Shyamalan's films feel like three wheeled wagons. It's like he does it deliberately. But I loved the anti-Marvel nature of it. Unbreakable is the masterpiece, though.
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Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 05:21 pm:   

Hmm, I wasn't crazy about Unbreakable either, but maybe that's just me. I thought his best were Sixth Sense, The Village, and I enjoyed Split.
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Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 05:22 pm:   

Maybe the most anti-Marvel thing we can all do is go out and watch The Irishman in the cinema. The CINEMA.
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Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 09:30 pm:   

I've not seen many good film this year. Oddly Yesterday had one or two moments that gave me goosebumps and had me crying. I don't know if tears are always a sign of good films or scenes or not though.
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Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 10:27 pm:   

I'd say don't see Irishman at all - watching it now. Or is it the Martin Scorsese drinking game? :-(
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Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 11:40 pm:   

God, so many unnecessary scenes... I think the original events took less time.
And gangsters are STILL BORING.
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 02:33 am:   

Ah, really? I've been catching up with THE SOPRANOS (20 years after it first went out) and it's great.

I watched THE GODFATHER again recently and it's... just okay. Feels like a boring talky film with some trashy surprise deaths thrown in to appease the audience's worst sadistic traits. It's like a Final Destination movie. In what surprising way will this character get killed next?

Funnily enough, on a rewatch, I probably even prefer III to the first one.
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 02:35 am:   

I quite liked Scorcese's SILENCE.

Just watched something which is possibly the Youtube video of the year for me. It's basically a PhD on Twin Peaks. That sounds awful, but it isn't. It really feels that this chap has found the key and the whole series is a fascinating comment on where we are today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AYnF5hOhuM&t=4493s
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 10:16 am:   

You just described Irishman, only the film had really lengthy dull talk (ten minute car conversations about a car smelling of fish) and DULL deaths. I don't know...I sensed no craft to it. I figured out it reminded me of eating say, a bag of your favourite snack, nachos, maybe, and opening it to find it's in tiny pieces, like dust. It should be the same, it TASTES the same, but it's not nachos... Or
like a lurcher being walked around an old loved town, on a leash, by an old man... Or a meal of a loaf of bread.
Now I'M going on.
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 10:17 am:   

Silence felt like Dukes of Hazard after Irishman. :-(
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 10:21 am:   

It's sad that Joker felt more like a Marty film. It was flawed, but had energy, FELT like a film.
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 11:09 am:   

Here's one for you; https://onbeing.org/programs/the-exorcist-mark-kermode/
I found it really moving.
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Posted on Monday, December 02, 2019 - 01:04 am:   

Thanks for that!
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Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 11:04 pm:   

I think this is heart-melting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3lbWba7xjQ
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Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 01:22 am:   

God, the innocence of the presenters feels almost alien now, and excruciating to watch. Innocence feels like such a spiritual thing, or is it natural? Animal? I drift from thought to thought so fast, an don't mind, really. My wife heard a talk by an ex convict recently, how he found God. He used to beat people up for a living, now he helps all kinds of people. Religion and belief is so odd...make a man do that, or stab strangers. I heard recently that sceptic debunkers James Randi said he'd happily let a junkie die, junkies are stupid, but a priest won't? I've said that before, haven't I? I suppose its a big question for me.
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Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 01:18 am:   

Why is the innocence painful to watch?

Well, spirituality and religion seem to be on your mind - you got there pretty fast from a clip on Blue Peter!

I suppose religion is about the general idea (which must be true) that there are things larger than us. The differences come about when we decide what those bigger things are. That's a big question.
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Posted on Friday, December 06, 2019 - 12:54 pm:   

It was the making me sad at its loss that was painful. Star Wars kind of let darkness in. When it arrived me and my friends started falling out, arguing about which was better, Planet of the Apes or Star Wars, and they really actually started bullying me for liking Dr Who. I'd never known such arguments over such trivial things before. They became cruel.
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Posted on Friday, December 06, 2019 - 12:57 pm:   

I totally understand the garden of Eden thing, the snake spoiling it. Snakes end up running everything. The apple; the irony! Btexit had been a snake, loopholes that let Tories pick weak labour leaders, the internet enabling Russia to rule the US. Snakes.
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Posted on Friday, December 06, 2019 - 01:00 pm:   

Listening the radio four's Exorcist. "I want to start studying again. Become a surgeon. Fix bodies, not minds, the humanity. It doesn't do you good to look into humanity too long."
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Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 09:33 am:   

What a dick Elon Musk is. Do we want a future built by assholes?
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Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 02:30 am:   

I don't. Richard Branson seems nice. Not sure what's happening with his space program...
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Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 07:10 pm:   

Who knows
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Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 01:53 pm:   

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1c575Zkjg7RDmy3Hgd0lKrP/a-bright-yello w-light

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