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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   

I started watching this yesterday. An hour in and he's got as far with the plot as John Carpenter did (much more effectively) in the first ten minutes of the original.

It all just seems so tacky and pointlessly nasty. he doesn't escape because they try to move him, he escapes because a couple of redneck guards at the asylum try to rape a girl on his bed with the door open!!! How bloody stupid can you get. At one point Loomis descibes michael as being an Angelic child. the original boy was in the first, but the kid in this one is a scruffy looking emo kid (15 years before emo existed)who seemed to talk in nothing but obscenities.

there's no tension - nearly all of his victims in some way deserve to be killed - there's no effort to make you like any of the characters. it's rubbish. I don't know if I want to watch the last half tonight. Going out and getting plastered was a much better alternative last night (especially since we won the pub quiz again by a clear 6 points so we drink for free next week).
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   

I agree, Marc. A film made by a zombie for zombies.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.177.52
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 08:26 pm:   

Well put!
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.69.32.56
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 12:03 am:   

I quite like some early White Zombie albums and the odd Rob Zombie solo stuff but his films are shit on toast.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.251.196
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 07:03 am:   

I utterly detested this movie. It was wretched. And it was worse than just bad, for it committed the unforgivable sin... it was boring.

I admit to liking both HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES and THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, so this isn't an opinion that's prejudiced... not that one need be not to like it.

The opening "backstory" was chaotic, plodding, and removed every speck of magic from the original concept. It was worthless hack-work banter. F*ck me, was this thing bad... not as bad as Branagh's FRANKENSTEIN, maybe, but that's bad of a whole different order....
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:37 am:   

Craig

You're not allowed to agree witth me about a film. It's not happened before so your scaring me. I might have to decide I like it after watching the second half just because of you.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.224.72
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   

Sorry, Weber... even a blind zombie stumbles into more brains every now and then....

And you and I even watched it the same: I saw the first half, and then days went by before I mustered up the semi-energy needed to finish it, so I could officially and thoroughly feel I wasted 2 hours of my life.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.129.151.24
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   

Devil's Rejects was like a comedy, a spoof of a gory film; the bit at the end when they die for what feels like 18 minutes with all those slo-mo wails was hilarious.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   

I think that was the point of the film, Tony - at least that's how I viewed it. As a Tarintino-esque homage/spoof/ode to gory slasher films. Great fun, I thought.
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John (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.4.67
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   

Balls, I've borrowed a copy of this but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Not worth bothering with then?

I do tend to like to watch these things so I can attack them from a position of authority though!
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.235.60
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 11:00 pm:   

But you'd only have the true 'authority' touch if you'd never seen them or anything like them.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.23.233.246
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 12:07 pm:   

Some advice; do not see Get Smart. I have never before been so aware of wasting my life in a long time.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.152.199.198
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   

Tee-hee! This is lovely, for some reason. It's lovely to hear zero tolerance of life-wasting bad art.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.18.129
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 10:10 pm:   

That's how I felt about all Mr Zombie's films.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.3.65.135
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 10:13 pm:   

Me, too. They're like omelettes in which the eggs have failed to adhere.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.124
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 11:39 am:   

I remember a Stephen King phrase; Wooden Nickel. That's how Zombie's films feel. There's just something forced about them, watching someone firing frantically at a target with a machine gun and missing every time. It'd almost be fascinating if it wasn't also so difficult to watch; like seeing a dog try to walk on two legs like a man.

Have I gone on enough about it now?

In Get Smart's audience there were about two small laughs at the entire film, and a horrible silence for the rest of the time.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.250.30
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   

I thought the outrageousness of CORPSES and REJECTS was delightful. CORPSES had a grueling production history: the film was so marred by the studios, released long after it was finished, etc. I do wonder, looking at HALLOWEEN, if maybe the studios gave him grief for a reason....

The ad campaign for REJECTS was one of the best for horror, I just remember the posters that were around the Valley and Hollwood. One big billboard of a mock-DaVinci Last Supper scene... yes, that's an old cliche, making fun of that painting... but this one was appalling, chilling, and fascinating... maybe it's on the dvd... I'm shocked only now, thinking about it and the others, and realizing REJECTS got none of the public outrage that CAPTIVITY did for its ad campaign... well, one wonders whether these "incidents" are ever real, or just more repulsively-inauthentic publicity stunts... sigh... will disgusting torture-porn ever be free of sullying ad campaigns?...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.242.126
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   

I thought the outrageousness of CORPSES and REJECTS was delightful.

I'm with Craig. Also, the scene in CORPSES where the sherrif is killed demonstrates what Zombie might have achieved if he'd allowed himself.

Don't et me wrong, these films are rubbish...but they are gleefully entertaining rubbish.
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Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts)
Username: Martin_roberts

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.5.239.91
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 10:13 pm:   

Got to agree with Craig and Gary here... the scene in CORPSES with the sherrif was worth the £1 I paid for the DVD!

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