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     Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.156.32.207 |
Trailer here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eu0n4sTEtGk | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.156.32.207 |
But you'll need to catch up on the real Big Brother first! :-) Mine and Marion's comments on the British version: http://www.ttapress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=182 58 pages so far! | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.204.119 |
Hey, that looks like it's got teeth. What about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_the_Dead Romero has quietly made an complete new zombie trilogy since 2005. Who could have predicted that? DIARY OF THE DEAD is lovely, it has the warmth of a home-movie. I'm a bit gutted that the same characters won't be in this new one. I really want to know what happens to them... | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.156.32.207 |
Another snippet. Wow! http://www.unseenscreen.com/ | ||
| Guy (Guy) Username: Guy Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.144.252.203 |
I have a lot of time for Charlie Brooker - both his columns and the Screenwipe series - and have my fingers crossed for this. | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.253.174.81 |
I love Charlie Brooker's reviews, and his original TV Go Home website & book, so I'll be watching | ||
| Guy (Guy) Username: Guy Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.144.252.203 |
Have you read either of his books John? They're collected from his Guardian columns and reviews... One's called Screen Burn the other Dawn of the Dumb (with a nice Romero style painted cover). | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.253.174.81 |
Yes Guy I've got the two and they're brilliant. And his Screen Wipe TV series was regularly plundered for Probertian after dinner speeches (that wonderful bit about how Deal or No Deal is based on the principles of quantum physics still tickles me, as well as the Ten Biggest Cocks in Advertising and so much more). | ||
| Guy (Guy) Username: Guy Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.144.252.203 |
I just love the fact that you give a speech after dinner in your house. Does the wife - or cat? - not think you dreadfully pretentious? I suppose it's okay if she likes Brooker too. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.169.217.61 |
The Big Brother Zombie film last night was rubbish, imo, and I won't be watching any more of it! | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
wrong thread. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.169.217.61 |
The idea was good. But things got out of hand too quickly. Hackneyed news reports telling the story. And there were no build-up of characters - and the horror was stylised and unoriginal - and too many shaky cameras even when shaky wasn't needed. I like the Spanish horror films that were on BBC4 recently but it is probably my fault - I'm jaded with screen fiction like TV and film - too fabricated, too stylised, high definition, special effects. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.128 |
Thanks to Mick C who provided me with a DVD of the whole BIG BROTHER: DEAD SET (without break or e4 logo!), I’ve now been able to watch it in one sitting. And I take it all back from what I said after watching just the 1st episode. I’m enormously impressed with this simply good and honest horror film. Yes, extremely gory, but with seeds of what makes me watch BB itself over the years. With moments of gory humour, eg: Brian – a ‘real’ past winner of BB - emerging from behind a life-size poster of himself as the feasting dead - plus a character in the mould of Jade Goody! Davina McCall’s body being butchered for bait. The (staged?) hate still lasting from the frothy BB scenario that preceded the mayhem. The atmospheric scenes on the river – like Blackwood’s WILLOWS. It was just as if the film was an attempt to transcend unreality with the residual ‘reality’ of a Reality TV programme. And it worked. Even the laughable things (such as the E4 streaming of the BB House still on TV in the farmhouse or the moustachioed ‘hero’ still nagging away even as the mob disembowelled him) became unlaughably grim and uncannily ‘real’ by the prestidigitation of the reality layers. It was like the film itself was the mob surrounding me – defiling me with its presence in my living-room, just as I defile myself by watching BB over the years and now a film like this... and I have succumbed, the mob have taken me. I no longer have the right to praise or criticise it. I am dead meat. Metaphorically. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126 |
You only said the first episode was rubbish, Des, because I liked it.  | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.209.204.107 |
Just watched this straight through. A good British version of Dawn of the Dead, with the Big Brother set standing in for the shopping mall. Sadly, that was it, and I've seen this scenario enough times now that I would only recommend this to zombie-movie obsessives. And if it sounds as if I'm being unduly harsh I probably am, but that's because the bloody thing was written by Charlie Brooker, whose Guardian TV reviews have had me in tears from laughing, whose Screen Wipe show regularly had me stealing his bitterly nasty quips to use as my own. Where was the satire? It should have been even bleaker, and a lot angrier that what ended up on screen. When Kevin Eldon's character started talking about 'judgement' I thought we were in for a terrific Brooker tirade about popular culture but it never came. Having said that it was probably the best bit of horror telly since Ghostwatch. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29 |
Having said that it was probably the best bit of horror telly since Ghostwatch. =================== Well, GHOSTWATCH was the peak. To be 2nd to that is good going. Yes, I think it was meant to be a satire on BB, but also on horror films - indeed a symbiosis of the two creating something greater than either separately. I would have guessed the maker of the film was a fan of both BB and Horror as constructive 'trash', and had recognised the symbiosis. (Real BB ex-housemates and Davina (who all apperaed in it) and Channel 4/ E4 Executives(BB's broadcaster) must have recognised this, too, or been told about it in words of one syllable?) | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Lord P, you sound as disappointed with this as I was with Planet Terror, which I've just watched. Really - how couldn't such a good-looking, well cast, beautifully shot film not have been miles better? There should be research into why Grindhouse failed, but I'm sure when there is the word 'boring' will be in there somewhere...  I wasn't mad on Dead Set, either. The zombie genre really needs a rethink. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126 |
PLANET TERROR was the most enjoyable film I saw this year. Tony, just what are you looking for in these films? It's as if you and I watch different versions or something, and your version has the good bits edited out. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29 |
This thread started first!  | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
Planet terror - one question - How did she pull the trigger? | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
With her fanny muscles. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
What am I looking for? A dreamlike tone, languidness(ity?), undercurrents, mood, big things outside the picture... I don't know, but I'll tell you when I do! (BTW I think my appetites are akin to my seeing adult films as a kid, the adults being deeply mysterious beings compared with my mum and dad, their worlds being quite different and hard to fathom. That's it - I want to be puzzled, fascinated, mind-buggered.) | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
I think my grasp of female anatomy may be lacking here. The trigger of the gun was level with her remaining knee. I'm trying to visualise how she could use her vajayjay muscles to pull the trigger. hmmm.... ah. Unless she has a pressure device inserted attached to a wire which tightened round the trigger. But I couldn't see any wires dangling down her leg. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
A dreamlike tone, languidness(ity?), undercurrents, mood, big things outside the picture... You're not gonna find any of that ina film like PLANET TERROR, mate.  | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
the "hmmm...ah" in my previous post was me deep in thought and then having an idea. Nothing else. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
A dreamlike tone, languidness(ity?), undercurrents, mood, big things outside the picture... You need Donnie Darko my friend} | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Oh, I thought you meant generally! I dunno - from a piece of fun cinema I want tit to deliver the things it seems to want to deliver. I think this film wanted to at least scare me a bit and gross me out, but it didn't, really. I mean it WAS gross, it just didn't make me wince (hang on - the needles in the hands, and the woman's hand snapping, did a bit). Halloween does these things for me, or some of them, and I want to watch Halloween again and again, but not this particular movie. Believe me, I am trying to analyze why some stuff works for me and some stuff doesn't. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29 |
Which 'particular movie'? | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
Freudian slip on the second line there Tony | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Planet Terror, Des. | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.71 |
"Planet terror - one question - How did she pull the trigger?" Pelvic floor exercises, Weber. It's on the DVD commentary. I loved PLANET TERROR but I suspect it was the 14 year old in me who loved it. The same 14 year old who loved DOOMSDAY. I wanted it to be the 40 year old me who loved DEAD SET but it didn't quite happen. Although I am having some second thoughts over on the other thread | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Weber; Ha! Maybe I do. I know, John - I want the appropriate me to like these things. Also I like my genre stuff not to feel quite so 'knowing'. Really it does undermine thrills. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.166.188.81 |
Just managed to watch last night's episode of CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER. And what a genuine classic of BB history. And the whole kaleidoscope of personality currently in the House is contributory to that fact. The Chesney Hawkes cult was so utterrly SATIRICAL. BB has become as ground-breaking as 'That Was The Week That Was' was in the sixties. Coolio justifying his behaviour as a Game Plan is like many a politician explaining their policies. Ulrika and Verne as clumsily symbiotic songthrushes was so exquistely painful and so 'Theatre of the Absurd', one wonders if this episode can be topped. The raising and lowering of so-called celebrities between Hell and Heaven beyond the wall. I spy with my little eye someone who once had a record at no. 96 in the top 100 in 1978. And Terry is the David Frost in his prime of this TW3.... All that plus the heartfelt monologues on abuse and religion.... seriousness trickling down into the Absurdity. It is a shame that people miss BB because they think it rubbish. | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11 |
It is rubbish though. I'mloving Dead Set though. final episode to watch tonight that I taped last night. |