| Author | Message | ||
     Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/classical-horror-guidelines/ My new anthology guidelines. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
Ooh! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
No stories about Liszt, Gary. (joke). | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77 |
Interesting...I just had an idea.  | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
>No stories about Liszt< Isn't that Stevie's perogative? | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
Des, just for that, you're going to get a story about Liszt! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
Look forward to reading it, Gary. I have now started a dedicated CLASSICAL HORROR website that duplicates the Guidelines etc.: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.37.199.45 |
Des, do consider a few strategic reprints: 'Clare' by John Keir Cross 'The Music of Erich Zann' by someone or other 'The Fiddler's Fee' by Robert Bloch Does Tubby the Tuba count as classical music? I've always found something distinctly chilling in the line "And the whole orchestra began to laugh." | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
Ramsey's story about a chorale in a boys' school, too. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
[with Joel around, scans for double entendres in the last message; declares himself safe] | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11 |
A Chorale? is that what they call it these days? | ||
| Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 178.116.56.167 |
Sounds like I might want to concoct something. By the way, Des, if you care to expand to other types of music, like jazz, you should definitely consider "A Little Night Music" by Lucius Shepard. | ||
| Mbfg (Mbfg) Username: Mbfg Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 212.219.63.204 |
Does that hoary old masterpiece from the sixties "Classical Gas" count? Or even the delightful and eminently avoidable "Hooked-On Classics" of the 1980s? And what about the Electric Light Orchestra? They had violins and were called an orchestra. String Driven Thing also had Violins, and Curved Air and Deep Purple played alongside an orchestra once. Then there was the Mahavishnu Orchestra and Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark and what about "Roll Over Beethoven"... Cheers Terry | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
The greatest introduction to jazz, for a classical music fan, is 'Sketches Of Spain' by Miles Davis & Gil Evans. A thing of shimmering timeless beauty that straddles the boundary between both musical worlds quite magnificently. Or is that just me talking bollocks again? | ||
| Mbfg (Mbfg) Username: Mbfg Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 212.219.63.204 |
No, you are not talking bollocks. You are absolutely right. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
I think what I expect from stories is clearly shown on my new website: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ with lists of composers. i.e. the stories should be based on unmistakeable classical music, not borderline or sample albums. I do however love Jazz, and a lot of Pop Music, and Pink Floyd etc etc. I even like Jedward. But this is a Classical Music based anthology of horror stories with no wiggle room. And I do not intend to include reprints (however famous or name-sales-strong). | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Thanks, Terry. I've been listening a lot lately to Zappa's late period collaborations with Ensemble Modern; 'The Yellow Shark', 'Everything Is Healing Nicely' & 'Greggery Peccary And Other Persuasions'. Some of the greastest classical music produced in the last 20 years. Surely 'G-Spot Tornado' would provide plenty of wiggle room, Des? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
Don't have nightmares, but can anyone see the front-on cat between the top orange images...? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
This is going viral! | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 92.232.199.129 |
>>.. but can anyone see the front-on cat between the top orange images...?<< Yep. I'd say it was a Siamese from the shape of the nose and eyes. Glad to see you doing another antho, Des! Classical music isn't my thing, but I'm sure the stories within it will be. Looking forward to it. You know you've got one customer already! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
That's amazing, Caroline, as that's the first time that image has been flipped and joined up with itself! And thanks for being my first customer for 'Classical Horror'. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
How about a tale involving Mendelsohn and Tchaikovsky trying to out-kitsch each other? Could even be a TV series: FELIX AND PETER - THEY'RE QUITE ATTUNED. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
I didn't anticipate stories to be about composers, but stories about characters interacting with classical music in some way. BTW, Mendelssohn. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
I was joking, me old lad. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
Mind you, I reckon that show could be a good runner. Peter's gay - that's a good viewing hook. Felix has a foxy, talented sister who hides her light under a bushel - that's the human interest. Could be a winner. | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
Is classical ballet allowed, Des? I may have an idea... | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.158.236.243 |
Not sure if that's what I had in mind. But if the story's a good one... But no Black Swan spin-offs! But the Swan of Tuonela, yes, more likely! | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
Fear ye not - I wouldn't go near Swan Lake! We'll see if it comes to anything... | ||
| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 99.241.102.179 |
But no Black Swan spin-offs! :-) So much for my Natalie Portman/Mila Kunis slashfic... | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.4.19.77 |
I take it you're talking about 'The Rite Of Spring', John? A horror ballet if ever there was one. I mean, has ever music, story and action married together to more primally disturbing effect? 'Rosemary's Baby', 'Harvest Home', 'The Wicker Man', etc, owe it an indefinable debt of gratitude, imo. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.4.19.77 |
All this talk of horribly beautiful classical music has me off to bed to listen to that self same ballet, a bit of Berlioz (you know the one), Mussorgsky (ditto), 'The Yellow Shark' & to calm myself down in the wee small hours (no, not Frank) 'Sketches Of Spain'... musical nirvana, without the willy. Yes, I am just in and rather inordinately pissed! | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88 |
There's a great section in Tolstoy's - I believe it's The Kreutzer Sonata, it might be "A Confession" - but it's where he goes on an attack against all "classical music," saying it stirs the spirits, listening to it; but just sitting there like a lump, there's no outlet for such stirring, and so it all only leads to frustration, depression, and dissatisfaction. Yes, Tolstoy hated classical music... and didn't like Shakespeare... and wasn't big on sex, either (well, late in life, at least).... | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.26.216.33 |
Stupid old git. Tolstoy, not you, Craig. Well, not really. Well, okay, you as well. But Tolstoy mainly. | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 02:00 am: I take it you're talking about 'The Rite Of Spring', John? Yep. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.159.146.177 |
Do have a look at the new 'found' images I've put up here: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/hello-world/ Now I'm getting seriously worried! | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.176.127.208 |
Is that a picture of your turntable, Des? A Garrard? | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.176.127.208 |
Hmm - now I look closer, it seems more of a broadcast one... | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.159.146.177 |
Thaht's a stock photo available from the wordpress. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11 |
"Stupid old git. Tolstoy, not you, Craig. Well, not really. Well, okay, you as well. But Tolstoy mainly." Got to disagree with you there Gary. Even Tolstoy didn't adhere to the template theory of films. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88 |
Just keep mentioning my name in relation to Tolstoy. Throw in Shakespeare while you're at it, I don't mind. Maybe after a while, it'll stick. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.159.146.177 |
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| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 99.241.102.179 |
Des, can you think of any published stories that would have fit your criteria? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.159.146.177 |
Jamie, the stories here: http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/a-pallid-wave-on-shores-of-night- by-adam-s-cantwell/ Or The Music of Erich Zann by HPL (though I'm hoping for stories that name real composers). But all in all, the sort of story to be known as 'Classical Horror' will be determined by this forthcoming book - or that is my ambition for it. | ||
| Nathaniel Tapley (Natt) Username: Natt Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 92.21.11.200 |
Des, how strict are you bring with your definition of classical? I want to write something about Leonin, Perotin, and the birth of polyphony, but am achingly aware that it's pre-classical music really. Would something connected to early polyphonic music count? | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 81.155.19.170 |
Natt, I shall be far more sympathetic towards debatable classical music definitions from distant history than from modern rock cultures. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 81.131.175.211 |
Just a reminder of this paying Horror market: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 81.154.251.239 |
Another reminder for this paying market: 30 May deadline: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.148.168.131 |
Deadline 30 May: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ One possible cover:  | ||
| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 173.32.63.252 |
That's an interesting piece of art. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 109.154.32.235 |
30 May 2012 is the deadline. Although it'd better be good to beat the pack already out there. This is going to be the horror anthology of horror anthologies... | ||
| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 173.32.63.252 |
This is going to be the horror anthology of horror anthologies... :-) I think that title's been claimed, Des. :P | ||
| Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.228.38.237 |
Des, I've run close to the deadline here, and since I've had trouble with this before, I wanted to be sure you knew: my submission was sent this evening.  Here's hoping you receive it! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 213.205.196.45 |
Received it, thanks, Chris. Good to tap generally into those who love both horror fiction and classical music. I hope this anthology will do them justice. I've always thought these two disciplines had much potential synergy. Now to prove it! | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 92.232.199.129 |
Des - you'll have to do a rock/pop antho next - just for the plebs like me who don't like classical music much!  | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 81.137.216.212 |
CLASSICAL HORROR ANTHOLOGY: 30 May 2012: Deadline Midnight tonight British summer time. I have had an enormous amount of great stories many of which would be worthy of inclusion in the book. So please do not be too disappointed if you should receive a rejection. In view of the large amount of work involved, there may be some delay in coming to various decisions. As has always been my wont since starting this paying market of Megazanthus Press in 2001, I do not comment on rejected stories, but merely notify rejection by email. | ||
| Jamie Rosen (Jamie) Username: Jamie Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 173.32.63.252 |
I wanted to submit, but alas I have nothing to show for this desire save a handful of sentences and two separate, abandoned plots. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.148.22.157 |
ToC here: http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/the-first-book-of-classical-horro r-stories-toc/ | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 92.232.199.129 |
Excellent news - congrats to all! | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.183.149.246 |
Thanks, Caroline. All twenty-one stories are now listed: http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/the-first-book-of-classical-horro r-stories-full-toc/ | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90 |
I forgot to say I'm in this! I'm in this. Des - I was going to ask, did the other authors have a single piece of music that inspired them? I thought it might be interesting to compare. My song wasn't 'classical' at all - a section of A Life in the Day by the Beatles. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90 |
I like that Rose on this thread, the Rorschach effect. There's something Rorscach about jusic. | ||
| Des (Des) Username: Des Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.128.38.90 |
There's something Rorscach about jusic. ---------------- Thanks, Tony. Words are Rorschach, too (you rejuiced the first 'h'). You mentioned classical music twice in your story 'The Holes'. The Beatles music has become classical music, meanwhile? I notice a link above is defunct. The ToC of THE FIRST BOOK OF CLASSICAL HORROR STORIES and its individual wordage is now here: http://classicalhorror.wordpress.com/ | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90 |
Oh, Jusic. It's one of those days. Also my net connection is terrible - it keeps saying I haven't posted something when I have, so I keep sending things loads of times before it's registered. It makes me look like an idiot when I'm quite capable of doing it myself - hence 'Jusic'. Yes, words too - I've been reading Beryl Bainbridge and keep zoning in and out of her work, like it's not linear, picking up on details here and there. I'm not sure she intended that. Her writing's odd, often tricky, sometimes vivid and others seemingly rambling and unfocussed. I like her though. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90 |
Lordy, my typing is breaking down! |