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Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.52.161
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 10:34 am: | |
We all know about the first remake but some may be new to you. The Illustrated Man gets made next year too. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-upcoming-scifi-remakes-2008dec07-pg ,0,5240717.photogallery?1 |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 03:51 pm: | |
Oooh...loved the original adaptation with Rod Steiger. Hope to god it's better than the remake of 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'. That was terrible. Even the special effects were appalling. Huge spinning globes and a cartoon like Gort. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 03:59 pm: | |
Rumours of Fahrenheit 451 with Tom Hanks as Montag. Sounds shite already |
Simon Bestwick (Simon_b) Username: Simon_b
Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 86.24.165.182
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:00 pm: | |
My housemate saw it and was not overimpressed. And then there was the online review titled 'The Day The Earth Sucked'... On general principles, I tend to think movies should only be remade if you have a damn good reason- much like cover versions. When the words 'Keanu Reeves' also appear above the title the heart really sinks. |
Simon Bestwick (Simon_b) Username: Simon_b
Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 86.24.165.182
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:01 pm: | |
Sorry, Weber, I was referring to 'Day The Earth Stood Still' in the above. Although Tom Hanks in F451 is an image to make anyone reach for the whisky bottle. Please tell me Michael fucking Bay is not directing. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:03 pm: | |
No he's remaking the Birds with Shia LeBoeuf I wish I was joking on both halves of that statement |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:15 pm: | |
Frank Darabont to direct and write F451. Tom Hanks no longer involved according to IMDB. Allegedly it started off as a Mel Gibson directed film to star Tom Cruise... |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:16 pm: | |
Simon - I think Keanu Reeves was chosen soley for the part because of his blank faced alien like acting. Weber - Tell me you're joking. Michael Bay doing Hitchcock???? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:24 pm: | |
Nope. Not joking. Although according to Wiki he's only producing. Naomi Watts as Melanie Daniels and George Clooney as the bloke whose name I can't remember... Just found out on Wikipedia that they published a ltd edition of F451 with an asbestos type cover. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:27 pm: | |
Asbestos type cover. Again, you must be kidding? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:31 pm: | |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451 Scan down the page to the Printings section |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:35 pm: | |
I actually have the ballantynepaperback first edition. I wonder how much one of the asbestos ones would cost now... |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.4.190
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:39 pm: | |
Doing FRANKENSTEIN again, hardly counts as a "remake." And adapting DUNE, FARENHEIT 451, and THE ILLUSTRATED MAN one more time shouldn't count either.... |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 04:53 pm: | |
What's the point of remaking a film that was almost perfect first time round. They always fuck it up. I can't think of a single good remake of an originally good film - apart from maybe Cape Fear |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 05:20 pm: | |
http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=658&Lot_No=26116&type=&ic= Possibly out of my price range. That's more than I paid for my car. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 05:22 pm: | |
I actually enjoyed the 'King Kong' remake. I believe, or so I was told, that 'Dune' the tv series was very good, very faithful to the book, though to be honest I haven't read the book. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 05:33 pm: | |
I forgot the Jackson Kong remake. That was also very good. That's 2 good remakes out of all the remakes of good films. Not a great average. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.8.176
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 06:06 pm: | |
Me, I didn't even like KING KONG. |
Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.145.240.86
| Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 11:56 pm: | |
There were two series of Dune...I saw the first, which was indeed, very good. The second, which I didn't see had a slightly rejigged cast. gcw |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.185.83
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 01:27 am: | |
The Thing surely counts as one of the few remakes (or subsequent adaptations, if you prefer, of the same source material) that is superior to the original. I'd say the same of Cronenberg's The Fly. I liked Jackson's remake, but still think the original Kong rules. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.168.4.162
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 01:29 am: | |
Invasion of the Body Snatchers! The seventies one is ace. I liked most of Kong, the remake. Too many good bits to dismiss. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.185.83
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 01:34 am: | |
Tony, you're right - the 1970s Invasion of the Body Snatchers is very good. I'm not sure if I like it as much as the original, though. I liked Abel Ferrara's 1990s version too. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.152.164
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:14 am: | |
The Thing surely counts as one of the few remakes (or subsequent adaptations, if you prefer, of the same source material) that is superior to the original. Nooooo! I love Carpenter's version but the 'fifties film is the one I return too - its snappy dialogue and great characters make it a great film, imo. However, I'll agree that Cronenberg's THE FLY is an improvement! |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.168.4.162
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:42 am: | |
I've just got the old Thing as part of that box set. Not seen it in decades. Watched a bit and it had a lovely atmosphere, I thought. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.52.161
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:45 am: | |
Nobody could ever drag me to the remake of THE WICKER MAN. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.186.227
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:48 am: | |
I like the first adaptation of The Thing a lot, but I don't think it can match Carpenter's version. It does have a nice atmosphere, though. Tony, did you get the one with the John Carpenter commentary? |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 03:40 pm: | |
'Nobody could ever drag me to the remake of THE WICKER MAN.' No kidding Ally- but bloody hell I would be curious to see if it would be any funnier... Wasn't the lettered Firestarter with an asbestos cover as well. And they're doing Robocop and Forbidden Planet again!? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 04:29 pm: | |
I thought the 50's Thing was average (and the 50's Fly) which is why I didn't count it. Body Snatchers is another good one though. Firestarter was released with an Asbestos cover as well - yes. I think they're possibly the only two books to have that distinction. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.10
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 06:47 pm: | |
And their owners are very poorly...? |
Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 99.240.155.122
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:31 am: | |
But Robocop is in good hands, at least. I'm less torn up about movies getting remade/rebooted when they've already been sequelled to death. I haven't seen the original Thirteen Ghosts, but I had fun with Th13teen Ghosts, the remake. Matthew Lillard was a standout. And Clue was included in a bundle license from Hasbro a few years back, so it may be -- well, not exactly remade, but re-adapted. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:47 pm: | |
"And their owners are very poorly...?" only if they've been snorting the books. (or checking their bank balance if they bought a recent copy. The 90's remake of body snatchers has one scene that's worth the price of the film by itself - where meg tilly tells the hero that "There's... no one... like... you... left!" There's something about that scene that's scarier than the whole of the orignal movie. Personally, If I'd made it, when she shoots her dad I would have let him stay human and not melt, just die screaming and bleeding on the floor. That would have made it the greatest version of the lot. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.10
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 06:01 pm: | |
My feeling about the nineties one was that it lacked a second act. The Meg Tilly bit - was it in a dark bedroom, with her in a Hammer horror nightie? I loved that bit, too. The recent remake had no nuts, did it, ultimately? Started ok, too, I felt. |
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.202.147
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:54 pm: | |
"My feeling about the nineties one was that it lacked a second act." I missed the word "one" when I read this. I pondered over that for literally minutes. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.10
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:54 pm: | |
Ha! I love things like that, errors where the truth creeps in. |
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.194.114
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 11:33 pm: | |
My conclusion was that everything since about 2001 was the second act of the '90s. The '00s were simply cancelled. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 08:42 am: | |
The Thing remake is indeed much more faithful in terms of essence to the original story, 'Who Goes There?'. But Christian Nyby's or Howard Hawk's (like Speilberg and Hooper with Poltergeist), the original is still well ahead of its time as a genre movie. The 70's Invasion of the Body Snatchers is absolutely marevellous, but believe it or not was criticised in some quarters as having overshot its reach by expanding the protagonists environment from sleepy small town to heaving metropolis. Personally, I think it was the next logical step in its evolution. I also, like Huw, like Abel Ferra's version. Where else would emotionless, blank faced aliens manage to blend in so seamlessly, than on an airbase. It also contains some of my favourite pieces of dialogue: "Look at me, look at me. Where you gonna' go, where you gonna' hide, nowhere, because...there's no-one...like you...LEFT." Chilling stuff. As for Cronenberg's version of the Fly, there's simply no comparison. Though admittedly, if Cronenberg had followed the original we would have had Jeff Goldblum walking round with a paper mache fly's head. And knowing Cronenberg, he'd get away with it. Other great remakes, or films hiding under the guise of another title: Carpenter's 'Assault On Precinct 13'. Which in turn was given quite modest reworking a few years back with Laurence Fisburne, Ethan Hawke, Brian Dennehey and Gabriel Burne. Can't remember of the French director, but I was suitably impressed. Protodroid - I used to think were a great cinematic period, but now I tend to view it as a very shallow period of style over substance. Lots of great films, though not as many as people tend to think. Sean Penn thinks we're currently going through a golden age of cinema. I wouldn't say I agree totally, but I do think there have been some pretty audacious movies made. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 08:44 am: | |
Protodroid - I meant the 90's was more style over substance. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 09:10 am: | |
Terrible remakes - The 70's 'King Kong' version, with Jeff Bridges and Jessica Lange. The sequel to the remake of the original Nosferatu, again with Kinski, though I can't remember if it was Werner Herzog this time around. Great remake - Insomina, after the little known Norwegian film of the same name. Middling, ok remake - All Quiet On The Western Front. Sort of remake of a reowrking - Larry Cohen's barmy, bewildering 'Return to Salem's Lot'. This has got to be seen to be believed. Though I do have a soft spot for the old genre maverick. I mean, Q Winged Serpent, surely that counts as flying reptile remake of the original Kong??? |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 09:16 am: | |
I'd like someone try to remake the following because they'd be crazy to do so: The Great Dictator, C.H.U.D., SCUM 81/2 Metropolis, At The Earth's Core (just kidding) Wendy Does Dallas, (not kidding (;) Hawk The Slayer, Krull, The Lavender Hill Mob, Goodfellas, Jaws, Natural Born Killers. And any Laurel and Hardy silent. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.10
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 10:18 am: | |
I liked seventies Kong. Had the most moving and brutal ending for me. At The Earth's Core - don't kid; it'd be ace! I agree about the golden age thing, btw. there's a lot of crap but more good stuff than I ever remember being. |
John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.47
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 11:11 am: | |
I'd like to remake The Monster Club, but with different stories from the original and the book, except The Humgoo one. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:52 pm: | |
me too, John. me too. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 03:20 pm: | |
Didn't they just do At the Earth's Core with Brendan Fraser in 3d? |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.10
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 03:41 pm: | |
That was Journey to the Centre of the Earth. Oddly, I was thinking Tarantula was basically Food of the Gods. It was, wasn't it? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 05:44 pm: | |
Frank, me and tony have both also quoted that same piece of dialogue from Body Snatchers. It's an awesome moment and more than makes up for the attack of the killer spaghetti look of other parts of the film. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 06:30 pm: | |
Weber - yes, mate. Fantastic moment. I quite liked the ending as the helicopter is about touch down on the pad. John - The Monster Club. That would be one hell of a movie. I adore that movie. But I do adore anthology of movies. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.208
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 06:53 pm: | |
Back to the Future with Shia la Boeuf! In black and white and with a happier ending. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.121.214.11
| Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 03:08 pm: | |
Not many films where dropping a six year old boy out of a helicopter at several hundred feet is a good thing... |